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Claudius 10-07-2008 12:44 PM

No More Montreal GP
 
I'm a huge fan of F1 and this is a big loss not only for Canada but the city of Montreal.

Here's the story:

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Canadian Grand Prix dropped



PARIS — The Canadian Grand Prix was dropped from the 2009 Formula One calendar on Tuesday.

FIA, the governing body of auto racing, ratified its calendar for the coming season and omitted the Canadian race, which was first held in 1967. It's the first time since 1987 that the Canadian Grand Prix won't be on the F1 schedule.

The inaugural Abu Dhabi GP replaces the Canadian race for the 2009 season, which will feature 18 races, the same as this year.

Contractual problems between Circuit Gilles Villeneuve officials and commercial rights holder F1 management are believed to have contributed to the decision.

When asked for comment, a Canadian GP spokesman said in an e-mail that he was travelling and expected to meet with the media Wednesday in Montreal.

It's not the first time the Montreal race has fallen off the radar.

In 2003, Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone announced the race had been dropped from the 2004 calendar because of an impending federal ban on tobacco advertising. But extra money was put up and the race went ahead.

The Canadian race was left off the calendar 21 years ago due to a dispute between local organizers and F1 over sponsorship.

The move leaves North America without a Formula One race for the first time in 43 years. The U.S. GP was dropped from the F1 schedule last year.

The Montreal race was popular with drivers and teams and a huge success with spectators. The event would usually bring in over 300,000 fans for the three days of racing. It was the city's biggest week for tourism and estimated to produce more than $75-million in annual economic benefits for the local economy.

A problem in recent years has been the condition of the track, at an island park across from downtown Montreal. The asphalt has been pulled up by tires, making for slick, treacherous driving conditions.

At the Grand Prix in June, there was fear that drivers would refuse to race, but organizers repaired the track overnight and the event went off without any major incidents.

The Turkish GP, originally scheduled to be raced in August, takes Montreal's June 7 spot to leave teams with a four-week break between the Hungarian GP on July 26 and the European GP at Valencia, Spain, on Aug. 23.

At the World Council meeting held at FIA's Paris headquarters, FIA also gave president Max Mosley the power to negotiate directly with the Formula One Teams Association over proposed measures to cut F1 team costs in half by 2010.

Should negotiations with the 10 teams fail, then the FIA can “enforce the necessary measures to achieve this goal”.

Also, Marco Piccinini will leave his post as deputy president for the sporting side of the body a year early “to focus on other professional commitments.” Piccinini, whose successor will be elected at the Nov. 7 general assembly, was serving out his second term.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...y/GlobeSports/

Belsius 10-07-2008 12:48 PM

The day they use the same engine for every car Ill start watching F1. Even if we have Alonso and two circuits in Spain, I find boring that 95% of the time the best car wins.
I usually just watch the beggining of the race when you can notice the skill of the driver more.

rapsfan087 10-07-2008 01:52 PM

IMO it would make the races more bored, all the people at the same speed in the same places.

I think at lower divisions all the cars have the same components.

Krazy Ivan 10-07-2008 02:37 PM

It's a big loss but truth is that the track was falling apart and the cost of teams going over the Atlantic for one race was huge so if US gets the race back Canada will have more of a chance to get theirs as well.

On the other side this give Toronto a chance to stage a race... all we need is some fool with a lot of money to burn... hmmm, where is Ted Rogers when you need him?

Ugo Ferst 10-07-2008 06:05 PM

As some1 that lives near the track in Toronto, no more races plz, silly "sport", loud and just damn annoying, ty ;)

Belsius 10-07-2008 06:29 PM




please tell how this is not a sport, and this comes from a person that its not a fan.

Aar_Canada 10-07-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugo Ferst (Post 59347)
As some1 that lives near the track in Toronto, no more races plz, silly "sport", loud and just damn annoying, ty ;)

It brings bucketloads of cash into the economy. Stick some earplugs in.

Claudius 10-07-2008 08:48 PM

F1 drivers probably have the most rigorous training on the planet next to astronauts. I've read more times than naught that many trainers in "popular" sports try to emulate the training the typical F1 driver goes through.

Belsius 10-07-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 59411)
F1 drivers probably have the most rigorous training on the planet next to astronauts. I've read more times than naught that many trainers in "popular" sports try to emulate the training the typical F1 driver goes through.

Yep, on a hot day they can lose as much as 10 pounds of weight. You just got to observ Alonsos neck to notice how strong those guys are.

XiaominWu 10-07-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius (Post 59411)
F1 drivers probably have the most rigorous training on the planet next to astronauts. I've read more times than naught that many trainers in "popular" sports try to emulate the training the typical F1 driver goes through.

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Originally Posted by Belsius (Post 59433)
Yep, on a hot day they can lose as much as 10 pounds of weight. You just got to observ Alonsos neck to notice how strong those guys are.

God bless them for all that effort..... it's just too bad it has to be so boring.

And I agree that it's more of an engineering contest than a sport.... so the astronaut comparison is probably pretty good.

Krazy Ivan 10-07-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XiaominWu (Post 59466)
God bless them for all that effort..... it's just too bad it has to be so boring.

And I agree that it's more of an engineering contest than a sport.... so the astronaut comparison is probably pretty good.

Boring or not it's the single most watched sport on the planet... more then NBA, NFL, MLB or any other individual league in the world... not the mention most expensive and most competitive.

Ugo Ferst 10-08-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XiaominWu (Post 59466)
God bless them for all that effort..... it's just too bad it has to be so boring.

And I agree that it's more of an engineering contest than a sport.... so the astronaut comparison is probably pretty good.

Exactly my point, driving isnt a sport, it takes talent and guts, but you are using the car, not your body to move, imo in a sport you have to use your physical attributes not mostly a machines (and yes i know alot of these guys are in great shape, that doesnt mean they could be world class at anything besides driving a car).

Legalized marijuana would put more $ in the economy then this racket :P

Krazy Ivan 10-08-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugo Ferst (Post 59620)
Exactly my point, driving isnt a sport, it takes talent and guts, but you are using the car, not your body to move, imo in a sport you have to use your physical attributes not mostly a machines (and yes i know alot of these guys are in great shape, that doesnt mean they could be world class at anything besides driving a car).

Legalized marijuana would put more $ in the economy then this racket :P

Good thing we have 'real' sports like chess, rifle or pistol shooting, billiards, bowling, equestrian, curling, poker, darts & many, many more... these are all great athletes using their amazing physical attributes. :haha: Wasn't there a sixty something year old guy who got a medal for Canada in the last Olympics in horse ridding... some athlete, huh?

F1 drivers have best reflexes of all athletes tested on the planet (#2 is fencing)... they also go through enormous physical torture while driving (they are not using gaming wheel and sitting in the basement) they experience loads well over 5g in the high speed corners... just think of it, their head with a helmet weighs over 40kg... you put that weight on your neck and try it out... not fun.

Also, they might be best payed athletes on the planet but F1 drivers are one of the few who earn every penny... driving 350km and making sure you are braking just in front of the concrete wall is never easy... many of us can hit the ball or run fast but only very few have the balls or talent to do what they do.

At the end, lot of F1 drivers are not only good but awesome at other sports... Schumacher played soccer in the Swiss pro league, older Villeneuve was a world champion snowmobile rider while younger Villeneuve is amazing skier, most guys from Finland are excellent in Hockey and few of them played in minor leagues... Mansell was excellent in golf and at one point though about becoming a pro... most of them run marathons or triathlons and as mentioned are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world. They are no worst in other sports then best basketball player was as a pro baseball player.

Ugo Ferst 10-08-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Krazy Ivan (Post 59673)
Good thing we have 'real' sports like chess, rifle or pistol shooting, billiards, bowling, equestrian, curling, poker, darts & many, many more... these are all great athletes using their amazing physical attributes. :haha: Wasn't there a sixty something year old guy who got a medal for Canada in the last Olympics in horse ridding... some athlete, huh?

F1 drivers have best reflexes of all athletes tested on the planet (#2 is fencing)... they also go through enormous physical torture while driving (they are not using gaming wheel and sitting in the basement) they experience loads well over 5g in the high speed corners... just think of it, their head with a helmet weighs over 40kg... you put that weight on your neck and try it out... not fun.

Also, they might be best payed athletes on the planet but F1 drivers are one of the few who earn every penny... driving 350km and making sure you are braking just in front of the concrete wall is never easy... many of us can hit the ball or run fast but only very few have the balls or talent to do what they do.

At the end, lot of F1 drivers are not only good but awesome at other sports... Schumacher played soccer in the Swiss pro league, older Villeneuve was a world champion snowmobile rider while younger Villeneuve is amazing skier, most guys from Finland are excellent in Hockey and few of them played in minor leagues... Mansell was excellent in golf and at one point though about becoming a pro... most of them run marathons or triathlons and as mentioned are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world. They are no worst in other sports then best basketball player was as a pro baseball player.

Touche, and all those other "sports" u mentioned, i dont consider a sport either.

Jordan could have been a decent baseball player, if he didnt stay away from the game so long, he was a really good player in his youth.

Racing a car isnt a sport, you can have the best conditioned athlete in the world, the best reflexes etc etc and w/e attributes you want, but if the car doesnt go, neither does he, the difference between the truely top drivers is their cars in F1.... its more of a sport in NASCAR where you all have the same car, but i still dont consider that a sport either :P

Belsius 10-08-2008 04:35 PM

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Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (a common name for some card games and board games with little to no element of chance) and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport


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