MLB/Jays Thread

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN · 12-06-2010, 10:48 PM

Red Soxs and Gonzo close to a 7yr 154million extension.

Great. Looks like Reds won't sign Votto to a extension this year, will have him for 2-3 more years and then he will be gone cause we won't have enough $$$ for him since he is going to be in the same demand. :/ I better enjoy watching him while I can.

Windex · 12-06-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RaptorsandBuckeye FaN

Red Soxs and Gonzo close to a 7yr 154million extension.

Great. Looks like Reds won't sign Votto to a extension this year, will have him for 2-3 more years and then he will be gone cause we won't have enough $$$ for him since he is going to be in the same demand. :/ I better enjoy watching him while I can.

he's coming to the Jays in 2 years

when we can contend

Windex · 12-06-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

Fuck that shit!! Grienke is not worth those two players. Snyder sure, but Drabek....they can go fly a kite.

Snider, Cecil, Zach Stewart, JP (or one of the other catchers)
dont want to give up more than we got out of Doc
if they want more, just give them that kite to fly

jeffb · 12-06-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex

Snider, Cecil, Zach Stewart, JP (or one of the other catchers)
dont want to give up more than we got out of Doc
if they want more, just give them that kite to fly

Stewart, Snyder, D'Arnaud or JPA.

Anything more isn't worth it.

Windex · 12-06-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

Stewart, Snyder, D'Arnaud or JPA.

Anything more isn't worth it.

ever think we AA got Lawrie so he can trade Snider...since he's projected to be a corner outfielder
and that trade is going to make KC trade

I think we got someone from jersey Shore
Brewers get Marcum from Toronto for Brett Lawrie, Lawrie revealed as tool | Miller Park Drunk

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN · 12-06-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex

he's coming to the Jays in 2 years

when we can contend

Most likely. I don't think he will be a Red for ever. Maybe 3-4 more years then he will be up for his "big" contract. Reds don't have enough money to give one player $20-25 million a year.

Windex · 12-07-2010, 12:02 AM

why do people get a hard on when you mention Snider?
he's not an untouchable to me

is Colby Rasmus still available?

jeffb · 12-07-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex

why do people get a hard on when you mention Snider?
he's not an untouchable to me

is Colby Rasmus still available?

who's getting a hard on over him?

Windex · 12-07-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

who's getting a hard on over him?

when you mention a trade for Greinke, they dont want him gone...but Drabek is okay to deal
and if you see other trades, he's an untouchable with Morrow and Romero

jeffb · 12-07-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex

when you mention a trade for Greinke, they dont want him gone...but Drabek is okay to deal
and if you see other trades, he's an untouchable with Morrow and Romero

fuck that, drabek is the untouchable imo not snider

Windex · 12-07-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

fuck that, drabek is the untouchable imo not snider

+1

Grienke, Romero, Morrow, Cecil, Drabek

that rotation is setup up for almost a decade

jeffb · 12-07-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex

+1

Grienke, Romero, Morrow, Cecil, Drabek

that rotation is setup up for almost a decade

i'd actually rather keep snider and get rid of lind.

Windex · 12-07-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

i'd actually rather keep snider and get rid of lind.

Snider is 22 and Lind is 27
dont know if the Royals would want him since they want to stockpile players for the future with cheap contracts

Stonezz · 12-07-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex

when you mention a trade for Greinke, they dont want him gone...but Drabek is okay to deal
and if you see other trades, he's an untouchable with Morrow and Romero

I think most people would rather see Snider gone, not Drabek.

Chiggmo · 12-07-2010, 01:35 PM

Ya some deal with snider going and keeping drabek i'm game for. I trust AA, he seems to be thinking smart and doing good things so far, and doing them the right way. I'll wait and see what it turns into though.

lonewolfpoet · 12-07-2010, 06:18 PM

I really really hate the Marcum/Lawrie deal. Why on earth would AA deal or best pitcher for a 2nd base prospect. We already have Hill at second and he had an off year,but still to give up basically our ace pitcher for a prospect is ridiculous. Brewer fans are loving this deal.

**Claudius** · 12-07-2010, 06:25 PM

Simple, Lawrie is a top prospect. Marcum is a pitcher that struggled against the AL East (it's true, look at the numbers).

You're selling high on Marcum. Plus, I'd argue Morrow was the best pitcher on the staff and along with Romero, Cecil and Drabek this year plus with Stewart in the minors I'd argue that they could all be better than Marcum eventually. You need to begin brining in some of that talent.

Plus, with Woj, Alvarez, McGuire in the minors this team is stocked at pitching. They need position players and Lawrie is a high level one.

lonewolfpoet · 12-07-2010, 06:45 PM

I think most pitcher stats are worse facing the AL East than any other division because it is the best division in the MLB. Yes Romero and Morrow are good, but Cecil is inconsistent and nobody knows how Drabek will pan out.

Morrow: 10-7, 4.49 ERA, 1.38 WHIP

Marcum: 13-8, 3.64 ERA, 1.15 WHIP

... and you think Morrow is the better pitcher, either your last name is Morrow or you are smoking way too much weed.

jeffb · 12-07-2010, 06:47 PM

obviously the marcum deal is setting up subsequent moves. let's see what happens prior to traing camp.

you know what really sucks, mcgowan not being able to pitch. he had better stuff then marcum.

Stonezz · 12-07-2010, 06:50 PM

Morrow has better stuff than Marcum imo. He really turned it on last season and i think he would've continued to be nasty if he wasnt shut down.

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Claudius is contemplating The Killing Joke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burkina Faso, Disputed Zone Posts: 9,643 Representing:	Simple, Lawrie is a top prospect. Marcum is a pitcher that struggled against the AL East (it's true, look at the numbers). You're selling high on Marcum. Plus, I'd argue Morrow was the best pitcher on the staff and along with Romero, Cecil and Drabek this year plus with Stewart in the minors I'd argue that they could all be better than Marcum eventually. You need to begin brining in some of that talent. Plus, with Woj, Alvarez, McGuire in the minors this team is stocked at pitching. They need position players and Lawrie is a high level one.

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lonewolfpoet is thinking Stephen Harper has got to go. Senior Student Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Markham, Canada Posts: 1,239 Representing:	I think most pitcher stats are worse facing the AL East than any other division because it is the best division in the MLB. Yes Romero and Morrow are good, but Cecil is inconsistent and nobody knows how Drabek will pan out. Morrow: 10-7, 4.49 ERA, 1.38 WHIP Marcum: 13-8, 3.64 ERA, 1.15 WHIP ... and you think Morrow is the better pitcher, either your last name is Morrow or you are smoking way too much weed.

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Stonezz is on some cool out shit Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,567 Representing:	Morrow has better stuff than Marcum imo. He really turned it on last season and i think he would've continued to be nasty if he wasnt shut down.