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Old 01-09-2013, 02:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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every single point you raise has a better counter point. sorry dude, stick to basketball.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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every single point you raise has a better counter point. sorry dude, stick to basketball.
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Say what you want but all those things were all factors in why he got fired. What was his long term vision for this team when came here? At least answer that one.
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Has less to do with what Burke did and more so to do with his personality/corporate image. Internal politics imo played a massive role here.

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Old 01-09-2013, 02:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Has more less to do with what Burke did and more so to do with his personality/corporate image. Internal politics imo played a massive role here.
Something happened, because there wasn't really any rumblings of this were there?
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Jeff lol at suspect defence. We have no goaltending and that's the only think keeping them out of the playoffs but there was little point in building from the net first. Defence, forward, goalie in that order.

This has to be tied to Luongo one way or the other with MLSE sticking their nose in and questioning either why did Burke want Luongo, or why he didn't. Not sure what side Burke was on, but there is no other reason for this to happen now.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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apparently burke is staying on as a senior advisor.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...ple-leafs.html
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Jeff lol at suspect defence. We have no goaltending and that's the only think keeping them out of the playoffs but there was little point in building from the net first. Defence, forward, goalie in that order.
I was always told in 30yrs of watching hockey you build from the net out. No Goaltender, no success.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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So Burke is staying as a consultant?

WTF is going on. Did he have a plan to be hear for 4 years and in the last step aside for Nonis? Something is really effed up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I was always told in 30yrs of watching hockey you build from the net out. No Goaltender, no success.
Which is exactly why you don't start with a goalie. Can get you mired in mediocrity when the goalie is good and the team sucks,... that's all I meant.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Which is exactly why you don't start with a goalie. Can get you mired in mediocrity when the goalie is good and the team sucks,... that's all I meant.
you do it early on imo. certainly by year 4 you should have clarity with your goaltenders. you also get mired in mediocrity if your D is ok but the goaltending sucks. i wil say this, building in hockey takes a lot of time even if you keep your high picks. trade them away at the wrong time and it sets you back years imo.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Has less to do with what Burke did and more so to do with his personality/corporate image. Internal politics imo played a massive role here.
This
Imho BB has really pissed someone off on the board...the timing of this stinks

Just got home from work so i really don't know what's going on
Has BB made any public statements ?
Has Nonis ?
Did the board interview Nonis for the job ?,ask him questions about the direction of the team etc etc ?
Or is he just another puppet now that they've gotten rid of the puppeteer ?

One thing stands out for me the most...why fire BB and give the job to Nonis ?...because they are essentially the same guy...makes zero sense to me
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Imho BB has really pissed someone off on the board...the timing of this stinks

Just got home from work so i really don't know what's going on
Has BB made any public statements ?
Has Nonis ?
Did the board interview Nonis for the job ?,ask him questions about the direction of the team etc etc ?
Or is he just another puppet now that they've gotten rid of the puppeteer ?

One thing stands out for me the most...why fire BB and give the job to Nonis ?...because they are essentially the same guy...makes zero sense to me
Just saw a clip of Nonis at his press conference, he looks stunned. And i was listening to the radio and they basically reiterated what you said about him essentially being the same guy. Most are speculating that they told Burke to trade Gardiner/Kadri for Luongo and Burke was against it which led to this happening.

Sports management fascinates me to no end. I would love to be a fly on the wall in meetings for a sports team, any sports team. The meetings with this organization would be especially entertaining. lol
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Just saw a clip of Nonis at his press conference, he looks stunned. And i was listening to the radio and they basically reiterated what you said about him essentially being the same guy. Most are speculating that they told Burke to trade Gardiner/Kadri for Luongo and Burke was against it which led to this happening.

Sports management fascinates me to no end. I would love to be a fly on the wall in meetings for a sports team, any sports team. The meetings with this organization would be especially entertaining. lol
Listening to Tom Anselmi (President & COO, MLSE) on the Bobcat show right now....WHOLE lot of bullshit coming from him...skating around every direct question asked

This whole scenario stinks ...looking forward to the next few days to see what is revealed
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Bye Bye Brian Burke you just made so many happy in Leaf land. Don Cherry is probably having a couple beers celebrating the wonderful news. Lets get a Canadian as our GM ......Burkey brought in Kessel for 1st round picks now he is gone....BC brought in Lowry for a 1st round pick is BC next to go ?????
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Listening to Tom Anselmi (President & COO, MLSE) on the Bobcat show right now....WHOLE lot of bullshit coming from him...skating around every direct question asked

This whole scenario stinks ...looking forward to the next few days to see what is revealed
Haaahhh, he just said that they want to go in a different direction. But they chose Nonis because.............. he's helped build this team to where it is now.


It's comedy hour as usual with this organization. I needed a laugh....wow


Why not interim him for the shortened season? lol
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Most are speculating that they told Burke to trade Gardiner/Kadri for Luongo and Burke was against it which led to this happening.
it could have also been the other way around.
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it could have also been the other way around.
Could be, who knows? I'm guessing more will start to trickle out over the next week or two.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:49 PM   #38 (permalink)
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step in the right direction for sure. The "Trade Euros, Sign Goons" method never really worked and I hate having a bunch of Americans on the Leafs. Canadians, Russians or bust. Waiting on Dave Nonis, the guy with history with the Canucks to get us Luongo soon.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:52 PM   #39 (permalink)
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oh god. I hope they don't pick up Luongo as the ones giving up something. Definitely not Gardiner. I'd be Ok with including Kadri, but not Gardiner. Taking Luongo with that contract is doing a favour to the Canucks FFS.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:51 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Jeff, all due respect, you have no clue if thats what you believe. Brian Burke has done a good job... not perfect, nope. But he inherited a fucking disaster, and he's made some serious headway turning that around.

I'd actually like to hear why you make this claim....and please, do better than the Kessel trade, because last I looked Kessel was a top ten scorer in the NHL, and his line mate, who was acquired for carrots, is even better than him.
I KNOW you aren't talking about Joffrey f'ing Lupul.
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