Jonathan Bernier has no clue who Nelson Mandela was
Old 12-07-2014, 10:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Jonathan Bernier has no clue who Nelson Mandela was

Wonder if he tried to have a conversation about Mandela with Magic.


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Jonathan Bernier in the receiving line at a Nelson Mandela Foundation event The Giant of Africa
Reporter1 (SportsNet mic): Alright Jonathan, how important is, uh, the legacy of Nelson Mandela to you?

JB: Well obviously he’s been, uh, a tremendous, uh, athlete and you know obviously what, uh, he means to all the sports you know when you know the worl- the world can uh be changed by the sports it’s pretty amazing. And I think he’s definitely uh got a lot of respect in every sports and uh he’s definitely one of the athletes I watched growing up as well.

Reporter1’s mic disappears from frame
Reporter2: Why is it important for you to come show support tonight?

JB: Well I think any good cause is, uh, sorry (he’s apologizing to someone to the left of the screen, not sure who/why), it’s always, uh, you know I love supporting, uh, any kind of cause obviously it’s for the Afri-, in Africa it’s obviously it’s, uh, a great cause, and enjoying, I guess, the basketball game.

Reporter2: Thanks.

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Old 12-07-2014, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ROFL omg. No way. This is golden.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You would think he would google him before attending? Why would he be there anyway?
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow - an athlete that has largely been removed from the real world for most of his life doesn't know much about that real world. Shocking.

When the Thunder visited the memorial on the site of the bombing a few years back, Westbrook said that he had never known about it. And that was more recent, and closer geographically than the end of apartheid.
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Wow - an athlete that has largely been removed from the real world for most of his life doesn't know much about that real world. Shocking.

When the Thunder visited the memorial on the site of the bombing a few years back, Westbrook said that he had never known about it. And that was more recent, and closer geographically than the end of apartheid.
At least Westbrook admitted it. This guy tried to act like he knew who Mandela was........an athlete. And how do you figure he's been largely removed from the real world? He never heard of Mandela growing up, in school? I can't believe that he's that oblivious to such a large figure in history. When he died, his story was being told over and over all over the place.
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Wow - an athlete that has largely been removed from the real world for most of his life doesn't know much about that real world. Shocking.

When the Thunder visited the memorial on the site of the bombing a few years back, Westbrook said that he had never known about it. And that was more recent, and closer geographically than the end of apartheid.
There's no excuse for not knowing who Mandela is or what he did for mankind. No modern day athlete is that far removed from the world, esp. now with social media... Just baffling ignorance.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Who is Jonathan Bernier?
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Just goes to show that plenty of athletes are complete fucking idiots.

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I'm not surprised by this.
I'd say about 95% of people know who Mandela was, but only about half of those people actually know what he did and what his life was about.
Ask someone here if they know about his life and what he represented... They wouldn't know the half of it.
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I'm not surprised by this.
I'd say about 95% of people know who Mandela was, but only about half of those people actually know what he did and what his life was about.
Ask someone here if they know about his life and what he represented... They wouldn't know the half of it.
Bernier wishes he knew half. Someone should have asked him what sport Mandela was famous for. Doubt he knows he was a boxer

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Old 12-07-2014, 01:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's not like the majority know that he was despised by much of the western world which now likes to embrace him as though they welcomed him all along. He was a terrorist and a communist revolutionary and seen as a threat to the government that the West supported. Of course he was much more than those labels, but the overriding concern was with Africa not taking control of their own countries. Enormous injustices were accepted for a long long time, and still are, there and across the globe.

When he came to power he was very ineffective. Yes, the bloodshed was avoided, but the inequalities still largely persist, and there was a good deal of bloodshed as a result. We tend to see him as a transformative leader, but he was not. He was a remarkable individual. His wisdom made him a true giant. But so little of his wisdom has been transferred to the world at large. Instead we celebrate an image that has been hollowed out, and feel warm and happy in forgetting how integral we were to the massive injustices suffered by so many, and which continue on to this day.

Bernier is entirely confused about who he was? I find it hard to make that anything worth giving a shit about. The fact is he was supporting the message that sport can be part of transforming a society, and that part of Mandela's vision has taken some root and is being carried forward by people like Masai Ujiri. Good on him for being there with Masai.
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He helped end apartheid. :cookie:
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Lebron didn't seem to know he was from South Africa when he was interviewed the other night. I was willing to cut Lebron slack for not knowing, but it surprised me that he hadn't even at least over heard a conversation about Mandela that night, which would have tipped him off.

On that note, I see Jeff's point about googling. Although LX has a valid point about athletes not needing to know this stuff, in an age when they all have a smart phone in their suit pocket/locker, you'd think they'd use it to do a simple check on wiki.

In his defence, maybe he was invited at the last minute?
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Lebron didn't seem to know he was from South Africa when he was interviewed the other night. I was willing to cut Lebron slack for not knowing, but it surprised me that he hadn't even at least over heard a conversation about Mandela that night, which would have tipped him off.

On that note, I see Jeff's point about googling. Although LX has a valid point about athletes not needing to know this stuff, in an age when they all have a smart phone in their suit pocket/locker, you'd think they'd use it to do a simple check on wiki.

In his defence, maybe he was invited at the last minute?

Nobody is claiming to know everything about Nelson Mandela, but it's bothersome that he said he was a great athlete and he watched him growing up. I mean, really? At first I thought maybe he was mistaken and thought they asked him about Barkley or something, but that seems doubtful....meh, who knows.
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It's really a pretty shitty question. How important is the legacy of Nelson Mandela to you? It's just stupid and unanswerable without looking stupid. Jeff. How important is the legacy of Nelson Mandela to you? How do you answer that? You can say not very, but that's pretty awkward. You could say his legacy should not be important to anyone like us, that he did not spend 27 years in prison for anything related to us, and that by making it about us we diminish what he was all about. That doesn't really work. Bernier seemed to know the event was about the idea of sports advancing principles of greater equality and inclusion, then the question turned it around on him as though he had to find something beyond that, something which effected him personally. The fail goes way beyond him, and again, he was there to support Masai and what he understood the event to be about.

This same dynamic happens every year when the nba plays games on Martin Luther King day. And there is a direct link in that case to the legacy. But i can't imagine if King were alive today that he would be satisfied that a few black athletes had the opportunity to cash in on their talents while so many are still left behind, and yet that is predominantly how the messaging comes across.
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Ha - ok that was not such a shitty question. People are dumb.
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Ha - ok that was not such a shitty question. People are dumb.
Not as shitty as the answer.....now that was dumb.
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