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Old 11-10-2011, 07:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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man this story sickens me, reminds me of an episode of criminal minds
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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don't the Fed's usually shut down a program when this happens and investigate?
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Timeline shows some of what was blatantly going on and how many opportunities there were to stop it.?????

Key dates in the Penn State Nittany Lions sex abuse case - ESPN



1998
Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.

Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."

Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.

The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.

June 1999
Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.

Dec. 28, 1999
Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.

Summer 2000
Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.

Fall 2000
A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.

Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.

March 1, 2002
A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Joe Posnanski Posts The End of Paterno
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Its difficult to comment on this case as not all the facts are out and Parterno is the tip of the iceberg.

Hope all the guys directly related go to jail for a long long long time. Sick fucks.

Penn State doesn't have much of a reputation for education and they'll problably be in shambles now. Too bad the school gets hurt the most in all of this
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
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*Shiver*



No Words, but this guy creeps me the fuck out.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:13 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i managed to get 2 mins into that vid before i had to turn it off in disgust

dude is a sick fuck...period
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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only 0:41 seconds and i got goosbumps
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:34 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I thought these guys weren't supposed to talk about case details while the trail is still going on
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:17 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It would seem that he's trying to go the Michael Jackson route as far as working public opinion goes. It's amazing that it worked for Michael. All the same, this guy is not Michael, and that makes it a very crazy tactic.
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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There are people who are confused by what he said - or the fact he said it at all - to Costas. Child molesters spend their whole lives lying and conniving, living in another world, where they rationalize, in their heads, evil acts. We're not dealing with a normal individual. They can also be disgustingly egotistical. So it doesn't surprise me that he'd say such ridiculous crap.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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What a sick demented fuck, all I can say. Same with his douche bag of a lawyer
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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In the Bible, and this is no shit, Jesus says that child molesters should have rocks tied around their ankles and then get thrown into the sea.

Punishment is not strict enough, repeat offenders are allowed to move in next door to you. This crap can really mess up a child's life.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:53 AM   #34 (permalink)
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and now another one, this time from syracuse:

Syracuse coach Bernie Fine accused of molestation - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN

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Police said Thursday that they are investigating an allegation that Syracuse University basketball assistant coach Bernie Fine molested a team ball boy for more than a decade. Later in the evening, ESPN reported that a second former ball boy, and relative of the first alleged victim, has come forward with similar allegations against Fine.

The allegations cover a period from the 1980s to the 1990s, according to a statement from the university in upstate New York.

Syracuse has placed Fine on administrative leave "in light of the new allegations and the Syracuse City Police investigation."

The alleged victim, 39-year-old Bobby Davis, told ESPN the abuse began in 1983 before he entered seventh grade. He was the team's ball boy for six years from 1984. The second complainant, 45-year-old Mike Lang, told ESPN Fine molested him when Lang was in fifth or sixth grade. Lang, according to ESPN, is Davis’ stepbrother.

Fine has served as an assistant coach at the school for 35 years.

Police told CNY Central the investigation is in its very early stages. As the day wore on, additional details surfaced on the nature of the allegations and Davis’ relationship with Fine, and longtime Syracuse head coach Jim Boeheim released a statement in support of Fine:

''This matter was fully investigated by the University in 2005 and it was determined that the allegations were unfounded. I have known Bernie Fine for more than 40 years. I have never seen or witnessed anything to suggest that he would [have] been involved in any of the activities alleged. Had I seen or suspected anything, I would have taken action. Bernie has my full support.''
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:16 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Ya know what.

ESPN can go fuck themselves too

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Jerry Sandusky found guilty of child sex abuse, should spend rest of his life in prison

BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Jerry Sandusky was found guilty Friday night on 45 of 48 counts of child sexual molestation and faces up to 442 years in prison.

A jury of Sandusky's Centre County, Pa., neighbors determined that the former Penn State defensive coordinator sexually abused children over a 15-year period, using his stature as a local coaching hero and his position with the Second Mile charity to target and then violate at-risk kids from the area.

The jury deliberated for about 20 hours after a trial that stretched across eight days at Centre County Courthouse. The jury foreman read the counts and said "guilty" on six consecutive counts before saying "not guilty" for the first time. He read all 48 counts.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:35 PM   #39 (permalink)
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STATUE OF PATERNO TAKEN DOWN; NCAA TO ANNOUNCE SANCTIONS

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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- The famed statue of Joe Paterno was taken down from outside the Penn State football stadium Sunday as the NCAA announced it would be issuing sanctions against the university whose top officials were accused in a scathing report of burying child sex abuse allegations against a now-convicted retired assistant.

Workers lifted the 7-foot-tall statue off its base and used a forklift to move it into Beaver Stadium as the 100 to 150 students watched, some chanting, "We are Penn State."

The university announced earlier Sunday that it was taking down the monument in the wake of an investigative report that found the late coach and three other top Penn State administrators concealed sex abuse claims against Jerry Sandusky. Sandusky was convicted last month of 45 counts of sexual abuse of 10 boys.

Meanwhile, the NCAA said that it would levy "corrective and punitive measures" against Penn State over the Sandusky scandal. The organization announced Sunday that it would spell out the sanctions on Monday but disclosed no details.

NCAA President Mark Emmert hasn't ruled out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the scandal, adding that he had "never seen anything as egregious."

The Paterno family issued a statement only hours later saying the statue's removal "does not serve the victims of Jerry Sandusky's horrible crimes or help heal the Penn State community."

"We believe the only way to help the victims is to uncover the full truth," said the family, which vowed its own investigation following the release of the report by former FBI director Louis Freeh. The family called the report "the equivalent of an indictment -- a charging document written by a prosecutor -- and an incomplete and unofficial one at that."

Paterno's widow, Sue, and two of the Paternos' children visited the statue Friday as students and fans lined up to get their pictures taken with the landmark. The statue, weighing more than 900 pounds, was built in 2001 in honour of Paterno's record-setting 324th Division I coaching victory and his "contributions to the university."

Penn State President Rod Erickson said he decided to have the statue removed and put into storage because it "has become a source of division and an obstacle to healing."

"I believe that, were it to remain, the statue will be a recurring wound to the multitude of individuals across the nation and beyond who have been the victims of child abuse," Erickson said in a statement.

Construction vehicles and police arrived shortly after dawn Sunday, barricading the street and sidewalks near the statue, erecting a chain-link fence then concealing the statue with a blue tarp. Workers then used jackhammers to free the statue and a forklift to lower it onto a flat-bed truck that rolled into stadium garage bay about 100 feet away.

Many of those watching the removal stared in disbelief and at least one woman wept, while others expressed anger at the decision.

"I think it was an act of cowardice on the part of the university," Mary Trometter of Williamsport, who wore a shirt bearing Joe Paterno's image. She said she felt betrayed by university officials, saying they promised openness but said nothing about the decision until just before the removal work began.

Dozens later gathered to watch and listen to the sound of sawing, scraping and shovelling as white-helmeted workers behind tarpaulins removed Paterno's name and various plaques from the walls behind where the statue had stood. Shortly before midday, all that appeared to remain was the bare concrete and stone.

Much of the work was hidden by blue tarps strung across temporary chain link fences while barricades kept observers on the other side of the street. Few watching said they understood the decision and feared what kind of punishment the NCAA would pile on.

Derek Leonard, 31, a university construction project co-ordinator who grew up in the area, said the construction workers on the project told him it was like watching a funeral when the statue was lowered onto the truck and then rolled away. He didn't completely agree with the decision but worried more that the NCAA would shut down the football program.

"It's going to kill our town," he said.

Richard Hill, 67, West Chester, a Penn State alumnus, said, "If you punish the football program or Joe Paterno -- they're tied together -- this town is going to suffer. The revenue does an awful lot to keep this town viable and lively."

Colby Walk, 40, who grew up in the Penn State area, wondered why an NCAA punishment was necessary, given the criminal charges, officials fired or forced out, Paterno's death and now the statue's removal.

"It's kind like we already have the death penalty," he said, referring to the worry that the NCAA would shut down the Penn State football program.

Diane Byerly, who travelled from Harrisburg in the morning when she heard the statue was coming down, wondered if the university was trying to make a symbolic gesture in hopes of lessening the NCAA's penalty.

"Maybe it was an olive branch," said Byerly, 63, a onetime season ticket holder whose father and son went to Penn State. "Maybe they'll go softer on us."

The university president said Paterno's name will remain on the campus library because it "symbolizes the substantial and lasting contributions to the academic life and educational excellence that the Paterno family has made to Penn State University."

The statue's sculptor, Angelo Di Maria, said he was upset to hear that the statue had been taken down.

"It's like a whole part of me is coming down. It's just an incredibly emotional process," he said.

"When things quiet down, if they do quiet down, I hope they don't remove it permanently or destroy it," Di Maria said. "His legacy should not be completely obliterated and thrown out. ... He was a good man. It wasn't that he was an evil person. He made a mistake."

The bronze sculpture had been a rallying point for students and alumni outraged over Paterno's firing four days after Sandusky's Nov. 5 arrest -- and grief-stricken over the Hall of Fame coach's Jan. 22 death at age 85.

But it turned into a target for critics after Freeh's report alleged a coverup by Paterno, ousted President Graham Spanier and two Penn State officials, Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice-President Gary Schultz. Their failure to report Sandusky to child-welfare authorities in 2001 allowed him to continue molesting boys, the report found.

Paterno's family, along with attorneys for Spanier, Curley and Schultz, vehemently deny any suggestion they protected a pedophile. Curley and Schultz await trial on charges of failing to report child abuse and lying to a grand jury but maintain their innocence. Spanier hasn't been charged.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:22 PM   #40 (permalink)
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i don't see why paterno's name is getting the headlines for sandusky's crimes. from what i've read, he never witnessed any of these crimes happening, nor did he have any first hand knowledge of them. he handled speculation/accusation by forwarding the complaints to the board.

yes, he could have done more by calling the police and firing sandusky, but like we've all read, it was accusations and you can't necessarily act on those alone. i'm not making excuses for him, but i don't understand the media focus of this. the media has essentially given paterno the face of these crimes when he didn't have any hand or dealing in them. you'd think the finger pointing belongs to the board who never acted on these accusations.
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