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Acie 06-17-2011 04:14 PM

Bill Simmons on why the NHL has the best post-game championship ceremony
 
The whole article is good, but I found the part about the actual winning ceremony pretty cool.

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That's one of hockey's trump cards, everything that happens right after a team wins the championship: starting with everyone racing happily towards the winning goalie and throwing their sticks and gloves in the air, continuing with the fascinating handshake line (when all bad blood from the series mysteriously disappears), then culminating with the emotional Cup ceremony and the signature team picture at mid-ice.

Unlike football or basketball, the ice isn't littered with people who don't belong there. Unlike baseball, the trophy is phenomenally cool (iconic, even). Every June, each winning player skates around holding the Cup over his head — always screaming in disbelief, kissing the Cup once or twice, then handing it to the next deliriously happy teammate — only the moment means something different to each of them. That's what I love the most about it: not the process as much as interpreting those particular moments. You can see everything they're thinking.

For instance, Chara looked so freaking happy that it almost looked like he was going to tip over like a tall building. Recchi knew it was his final game, the perfect way to go out, and savored it accordingly. Lucic couldn't believe it was happening in Vancouver, the place he grew up, and looked like he might start bawling. Bergeron pumped it in the air with extra gusto, knowing that he's probably one more unlucky concussion from never playing again. Horton held the Cup high without a hint of bitterness, ecstatic to be there and not in a hospital bed. Marchand bathed in one last round of boos from the Canucks fans — who simply hated him, and rightfully so — holding the Cup high to stick it to them one more time. Seguin almost didn't know what to do with it and quickly passed it off, like he was thinking, "I'm too young for this, how did this happen?"

And Thomas? He took the Cup for a little extra ride, skating in the other direction with it, doing a quick mini-lap and basking in the past two months. Tim Thomas will always be remembered in Boston for many reasons, but mainly this one: The Bruins goalie finally got hot. You could say it was 40 years coming. Because it would be true.

After almost four decades of missteps and missed opportunities the Bruins reign supreme - Grantland

'trane 06-17-2011 04:34 PM

:yeah:

Aar_Canada 06-17-2011 05:10 PM

Very true. When the Mavs won it was like, really subdued and lame. Dirk took off. There's no alone time crying in sports! And with baseball, the vast majority of the elation takes place amidst alcohol and tarps in the dressing room.

jeffb 06-17-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aar_Canada (Post 549554)
Very true. When the Mavs won it was like, really subdued and lame. Dirk took off. There's no alone time crying in sports! And with baseball, the vast majority of the elation takes place amidst alcohol and tarps in the dressing room.

Yeah, the celebration in Miami was kind bad, anticlamtic even. It didn't help that in was on the road in the lamest Basketball city. Hell the commentators were talking about the fans heading for the exits with just under 2 minutes left, which is absolutely pathetic. If that were in Dallas, big difference. I always found the hockey celebration kinda lame as well. But overall every sport celebrates the same in their respective sports year after year and when it's on the road (no matter the sport) it usually sucks. I will say that when you look at the 4 major sports, the Stanley cup celebration probably has the edge over the other sports, so i agree there.

On a side note, i remember watching as a kid and wanting to see someone fall on their ass while growling with the cup, has that ever happened? I don't remember ever seeing that happen. lol

Aar_Canada 06-17-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 549568)
Yeah, the celebration in Miami was kind bad, anticlamtic even. It didn't help that in was on the road in the lamest Basketball city. Hell the commentators were talking about the fans heading for the exits with just under 2 minutes left, which is absolutely pathetic. If that were in Dallas, big difference. I always found the hockey celebration kinda lame as well. But overall every sport celebrates the same in their respective sports year after year and when it's on the road (no matter the sport) it usually sucks. I will say that when you look at the 4 major sports, the Stanley cup celebration probably has the edge over the other sports, so i agree there.

On a side note, i remember watching as a kid and wanting to see someone fall on their ass while growling with the cup, has that ever happened? I don't remember ever seeing that happen. lol

You think everything's lame. :dancing:

Gretzky said he almost fell backwards from the weight of the Cup.

jeffb 06-17-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aar_Canada (Post 549651)
You think everything's lame. :dancing:

Gretzky said he almost fell backwards from the weight of the Cup.

Really? I rarely use the word Lame so that's hard to believe.

Bill Haverchuck 06-18-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 549654)
Really? I rarely use the word Lame so that's hard to believe.

You may rarely use the word lame, but I don't think that's Aar's point. You dislike - or hold a negative opinion towards - many things. Pathetic, lame, dislke, hate, etc... all negative opinions. It's about negativity.

And he sort of has a point. I was just reading a thread in which you called the CFL a joke and said you don't bother to watch Soccer.

Do other users dislike things? Sure. Most definitely. You just seem to disclose things you dislike more frequently than others around here. That's all. Your list seems much, much longer than others. Few users go out of their way to constantly mention what they dislike.

jeffb 06-18-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 549684)
You may rarely use the word lame, but I don't think that's Aar's point. You dislike - or hold a negative opinion towards - many things. Pathetic, lame, dislke, hate, etc... all negative opinions. It's about negativity.

And he sort of has a point. I was just reading a thread in which you called the CFL a joke and said you don't bother to watch Soccer.

Do other users dislike things? Sure. Most definitely. You just seem to disclose things you dislike more frequently than others around here. That's all. Your list seems much, much longer than others. Few users go out of their way to constantly mention what they dislike.

Ok that i can agree with. lol

Chiggmo 06-18-2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 549684)
You may rarely use the word lame, but I don't think that's Aar's point. You dislike - or hold a negative opinion towards - many things. Pathetic, lame, dislke, hate, etc... all negative opinions. It's about negativity.

And he sort of has a point. I was just reading a thread in which you called the CFL a joke and said you don't bother to watch Soccer.

Do other users dislike things? Sure. Most definitely. You just seem to disclose things you dislike more frequently than others around here. That's all. Your list seems much, much longer than others. Few users go out of their way to constantly mention what they dislike.

I DISLIKE YOU BILL! Na jus kidden I got nothin against you at all.

As for the Hockey celebration I love it. Each player basks (sp?) in the moment with the cup and themself for those few seconds knowing they're on top. then share it together with their team. Most sports its a short jumping circle where they all huge for 5 seconds, shake hands, quick picture, and back to the locker rooms to shower each other in champaign which they all do in sports. Even hockey wins for that because they can drink out of their trophy haha.

Aar_Canada 06-18-2011 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 549684)
You may rarely use the word lame, but I don't think that's Aar's point. You dislike - or hold a negative opinion towards - many things. Pathetic, lame, dislke, hate, etc... all negative opinions. It's about negativity.

And he sort of has a point. I was just reading a thread in which you called the CFL a joke and said you don't bother to watch Soccer.

Do other users dislike things? Sure. Most definitely. You just seem to disclose things you dislike more frequently than others around here. That's all. Your list seems much, much longer than others. Few users go out of their way to constantly mention what they dislike.

Thank you, Bill - that was my point. It'd be interesting to run a percentage on Jeff's negative posts. Not that I'm much better, but I digress. And as far as soccer goes, he's in brilliant company - Stephen Colbert, Norm MacDonald and myself. Huzzinga!

Acie 06-18-2011 02:07 PM

200,000 in Dallas for their parade.

1,000,000 for the Bruins parade.

jeffb 06-18-2011 02:12 PM

Mavs parade- Middle of the week
Boston parade- On a Saturday

NBA-23Mil watched Game 6
NHL- 5.7Mil watched Game 7

Chiggmo 06-18-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aar_Canada (Post 549702)
Thank you, Bill - that was my point. It'd be interesting to run a percentage on Jeff's negative posts. Not that I'm much better, but I digress. And as far as soccer goes, he's in brilliant company - Stephen Colbert, Norm MacDonald and myself. Huzzinga!

It's buzzinga... :@

Acie 06-18-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 549785)
Mavs parade- Middle of the week
Boston parade- On a Saturday

NBA-23Mil watched Game 6
NHL- 5.7Mil watched Game 7

It just goes to show that the Bruins are smarter about planning and that New England fans support their team more.

And actually, it was 8.5 million for game seven and it was the fourth-largest average audience for a U.S. telecast of an NHL game ever and the most since May 10, 1973. Hockey is on the rise, brother.

jeffb 06-18-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Acie (Post 549794)
It just goes to show that the Bruins are smarter about planning and that New England fans support their team more.

And actually, it was 8.5 million for game seven and it was the fourth-largest average audience for a U.S. telecast of an NHL game ever and the most since May 10, 1973. Hockey is on the rise, brother.

Actually I over shot it. Lol

Up 2%...

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NEW YORK (AP)—The Boston Bruins’ Stanley Cup-clinching victory over the Vancouver Canucks on Wednesday night earned the highest television rating for an NHL game in 37 years.

Boston’s 4-0 win in Game 7 on NBC earned a 4.8 rating and 8 share. That’s the best since a 7.6/27 for Boston-Philadelphia in 1974.


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It’s up 2 percent from last year’s deciding Game 6 between Chicago and Philadelphia and up 12 percent from the most recent Game 7 in 2009 between Detroit and Pittsburgh.

The seven games averaged 4.6 million viewers on NBC and Versus, the most for a series split between network and cable involving a Canadian team.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slu...leycup-ratings

Claudius 06-18-2011 03:30 PM

Who really cares who watched it and who didn't.

They're apples and oranges. Right now, the NHL has re-entered into the conversation in the Northern US (which is huge). Hell, they were behind NASCAR. They're essentially re-building their brand and they're doing a decent job at it.

Hell, a big reason why the NHL suffered is because ESPN has plugged them at all. Meanwhile, the NBA is in bed with ESPN and really ESPN and its whole culture has killed alot of my interest in the NBA.

fancylad 06-18-2011 03:42 PM

Thank you Claudius. Who really cares.

i was entertained by both finals.

jeffb 06-18-2011 03:53 PM

I've got an honest question, why doesn't ESPN pick up Hockey. I mean it is one of the big 4, shit how many channels do they have? Makes little sense to me.

Chiggmo 06-18-2011 06:00 PM

If Bettman were fired Hockey would take off no matter who replaced him... Even Jeff could.

Claudius 06-19-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 549815)
I've got an honest question, why doesn't ESPN pick up Hockey. I mean it is one of the big 4, shit how many channels do they have? Makes little sense to me.

Simple. ESPN got pissed that the NHL didn't renew their contract with them and signed with their competitor (Comcast).

Since then, they've never discussed it and barely show any highlights.

It's all childish.


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