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Old 08-22-2011, 10:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If I'd answered this question ten years ago and looked at it in the present moment then I wouldn't recognize myself.
I wouldn't have written what I'm about to. My philosophy is to give as much as I can, as honestly as I can, and as consistent as I can to those I encounter, accept, love, and cherish. No natter the level of permanency. I've come to see how important the mysteriousness of this life is, in some ways a kind of mysteriousness that parallels death itself. Knowing is having the courage to let go to the mystery and being completely vulnerable to its transformative potency.
Believing this has made the idea of my life becoming something else more complicated, less mysterious, and I guess, natural.
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If I'd answered this question ten years ago and looked at it in the present moment then I wouldn't recognize myself.
I wouldn't have written what I'm about to. My philosophy is to give as much as I can, as honestly as I can, and as consistent as I can to those I encounter, accept, love, and cherish. No natter the level of permanency. I've come to see how important the mysteriousness of this life is, in some ways a kind of mysteriousness that parallels death itself. Knowing is having the courage to let go to the mystery and being completely vulnerable to its transformative potency.
Believing this has made the idea of my life becoming something else more complicated, less mysterious, and I guess, natural.
Hi cling.

while I don't see as much mystery as you do, I love your way of looking at life. Thats a wonderful post, and a respectable path to walk.

Funny, many people would read that and think you expect complete selflessness, but I don't think you do. I'm sure you, like myself, just think that being kind, and available to people who need you when you can do it, is a better way to live life than to be close and selfish.

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If I'd answered this question ten years ago and looked at it in the present moment then I wouldn't recognize myself.
I wouldn't have written what I'm about to. My philosophy is to give as much as I can, as honestly as I can, and as consistent as I can to those I encounter, accept, love, and cherish. No natter the level of permanency. I've come to see how important the mysteriousness of this life is, in some ways a kind of mysteriousness that parallels death itself. Knowing is having the courage to let go to the mystery and being completely vulnerable to its transformative potency.
Believing this has made the idea of my life becoming something else more complicated, less mysterious, and I guess, natural.
i also see that as something different than selflessness. maybe i'm reading henry miller into your words, or maybe you are echoing the same idea. maybe i'm completely wrong. the point for me is that in impermanence, in letting go, in giving absolutely and in accepting the mystery that goes with life and with those choices, you achieve the ultimate state for yourself. you become part of a larger entity where selfishness and selflessness become intertwined.

i like this line, from sexus, where miller is talking about love and expresses the other side of this idea - what happens when you don't give absolutely:

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in the egocentric prism the helpless victim is walled in by the very light which he refracts. the ego dies in its own glass cage....
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:18 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Hi cling.

while I don't see as much mystery as you do, I love your way of looking at life. Thats a wonderful post, and a respectable path to walk.

Funny, many people would read that and think you expect complete selflessness, but I don't think you do. I'm sure you, like myself, just think that being kind, and available to people who need you when you can do it, is a better way to live life than to be close and selfish.

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Exactly sj. For me to expect selflessness negates experience. You reading what I wrote, and reciprocating it back to me only proves how invaluable the self is.

Thank you for that.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i also see that as something different than selflessness. maybe i'm reading henry miller into your words, or maybe you are echoing the same idea. maybe i'm completely wrong. the point for me is that in impermanence, in letting go, in giving absolutely and in accepting the mystery that goes with life and with those choices, you achieve the ultimate state for yourself. you become part of a larger entity where selfishness and selflessness become intertwined.

i like this line, from sexus, where miller is talking about love and expresses the other side of this idea - what happens when you don't give absolutely:
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Not only the content of your response, but its form, reciprocates and productively refracts my own gesture. I like that I'm reading what you and sj wrote to my reply after spending the whole day reading what others have said about Jack Layton. There's a solace in both of your responses that's going to make me sleep a lot better than i had anticipated.

Thanks 'trane.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:27 AM   #28 (permalink)
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. Not only the content of your response, but its form, reciprocates and productively refracts my own gesture. I like that I'm reading what you and sj wrote to my reply after spending the whole day reading what others have said about Jack Layton. There's a solace in both of your responses that's going to make me sleep a lot better than i had anticipated.

Thanks 'trane.
Funny you brought up Layton. I connected your post and Trane's response with the spirit of the day as well.

Personally, I have always felt that there is nothing more hedonistic than giving. Of course it might be a luxury that is not available to everyone, and that is why I pointed to individual circumstances in my original post. It would be a wonderful aim, and quite a Laytonesque one at that, to provide that luxury to everyone.

If I may try to explore more concrete terms, there is a great sense of elation when realizing that the mosquito, or the leach, is not taking my blood, but that it is as much theirs as mine. Living so tightly bound within our own skins is not unlike being in a prison, particularly since we have the means of a certain boundlessness even while literally imprisoned (not that I would count on overcoming those circumstances myself, but again, it would be something to aim for).
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Funny you brought up Layton. I connected your post and Trane's response with the spirit of the day as well.

Personally, I have always felt that there is nothing more hedonistic than giving. Of course it might be a luxury that is not available to everyone, and that is why I pointed to individual circumstances in my original post. It would be a wonderful aim, and quite a Laytonesque one at that, to provide that luxury to everyone.

If I may try to explore more concrete terms, there is a great sense of elation when realizing that the mosquito, or the leach, is not taking my blood, but that it is as much theirs as mine. Living so tightly bound within our own skins is not unlike being in a prison, particularly since we have the means of a certain boundlessness even while literally imprisoned (not that I would count on overcoming those circumstances myself, but again, it would be something to aim for).
What a crock of shit.

in you hedonistic pursuits... if I may use the work Hedonistic, is part of your everyday pursuit of happiness and pleasure taking ignorant pot shots at people on a Basketball messageboard. I mean, you do it all the time.

Espousing the beauty of the symbiotic relationship shared by Mosquitos or Leaches with you right fucking leg as a hedonistic pursuit of giving back from your bountiful teet.

Talk about ago. I mean fuck, Ayn Rand is the biggest bitch on the planet, yet her own special take on egoism and hedonism as manifested in her own theory of objectivism doesn't dare go as far as attaining satisfaction from seeing those around her fail or be discredited. In this context even she manages to come out looking like she has a little bit of a soul. Just a thread above, you went far out of your way to insult a guy sitting in a bed trying to recover from what amounted to a very difficult and dangerous medical procedure. Very Layton-esque LZ, bravo. (maybe you didn't, maybe you rare just that fucking stupid that you still don't understand that trade thread)

So here's LX, our wise old Sage of the Toronto Raptor Fans. Spreading a little love and joy around for the benefit of the less fortunate, both socially and genetically (although, mosquitos have been much ore successful on the roc than people have, must be all the free handouts from the benevolent hedonists).... do everyone a favour LX, go sell shit someplace else. You church up bullshit all you like, and you do it well, have since I starting reading your posts years ago. But never assume that just because you can shine a 69 GTO, that there is actually a motor inside.

My car might be rusty, but it runs well and rarely runs anyone over....not for a fucking small bit of ego boost on a basketball messageboard.


So thanks for you words LX, and you're welcome for my reply. This one was free, and I did it 100% drug free if it pleases you, you heartless and hateful prick.

Guess what, I have a little time on my hands, so you best be on our toes Einstein, you might have to actually back up some of the well wrapped bullshit you've been so hedonistically generous with here on the boards.

this is all of course just my pinion, good thing were in the Podium.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:34 AM   #30 (permalink)
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nicely done SJ. I find giving to be the highest form of hedonism. Yes. In that regard I think it ties in with what Trane was saying in regard to the selfless and selfish being intertwined, although I could be wrong. The reference to mosquitos and leeches was really taken to another level there. I'm not sure how you got the impression that I think they should be honoured to have my blood.

Dude - I pointed out an obvious inconsistency in your position concerning DeMar over the past year. It was a position that saw you throwing feces and hate my way, before you decided that it would be more fun to make an issue of his worth now. Should I have just left it alone? Yes, probably, knowing what I know about your temperament. For not holding back I apologize. Good on you for taking your own piece of my flesh. Of course it is not just mine alone, so I am not greatly dismayed, and deep down I still love you. Sadly, the leech that took the blood that was on loan to me, likely made better use of it than you will. It's a shame. But that is SJ being SJ.
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Funny you brought up Layton. I connected your post and Trane's response with the spirit of the day as well.

Personally, I have always felt that there is nothing more hedonistic than giving. Of course it might be a luxury that is not available to everyone, and that is why I pointed to individual circumstances in my original post. It would be a wonderful aim, and quite a Laytonesque one at that, to provide that luxury to everyone.
Most hedonist I would believe think the opposite of that. In living life in pursuit of there own pleasure and self-gratification, it is more than easy to be mean spirited and manipulate others around you to achieve this self pleasure. If you mean that nothing feels better than giving then I agree.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:39 PM   #32 (permalink)
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a) I'l leave the other thread where it is.

b) I'm glad that hurt. And I appreciate the response brother. As silly and frat boy as I can get, I don't try, ever to hurt people and you I think know that. This won't happen again LX. I promise you that... but you're right, I'm taking that blood, and I'm keeping it in my freezer and not using it for shit. I took it purely because I was mad.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Most hedonist I would believe think the opposite of that. In living life in pursuit of there own pleasure and self-gratification, it is more than easy to be mean spirited and manipulate others around you to achieve this self pleasure. If you mean that nothing feels better than giving then I agree.
Let me put it this way. When young, I was rather attracted to the sort of hedonism espoused by the 60's generation. What I discovered eventually was that indeed nothing feels better than giving, but more than just that - it does provide a bigger sense of the self and a sense of a person's place in the world. And I'm not talking about being saintly and giving up all worldly possessions, but rather just giving of yourself whenever possible.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:00 PM   #34 (permalink)
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sounds like we all seem to be on the same page... and if not, at least in the same book.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:39 AM   #35 (permalink)
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At any given moment in life, what lies in front of you is open and free.
Try to keep that in mind.

Life, living, is all about stripping silly egocentricities away and learning to be open and unfearing of the things in life you know little about.

A man who has lost fear, and retained his desire to learn and to experience will stay a child until he dies. Nothing matters.

Yes we have societal constraints and we have laws and politics.... but unless you have a desire to trulu behave in a manner that is hurtful or has a negative effect on things or people around you, this can never hold you back from experiencing your life in an open and free way. Existentially you can control the direction.... or you can not control it. Thats the joy of existing free.
This is probably post digging, but I thought this was a great post. Really goes to show how being younger (I'm 19) on a board with some great adults can really help you out in learning a thing or two about life.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:50 AM   #36 (permalink)
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A lot of pretty good dudes here man. LX, trane, all of um....

not sure how usefull they are as it pertains to PG's or Sg's.... but they are sound human beings nonetheless.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:49 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I just think that it is very important to always keep an open mind, its never too late to learn something new. Some People pretend to know ''everything'' and just talk bullshit to seem smarter in the eyes of others, when in reality they show how dumb they really are. That's why i don't find it embarrassing or foolish to say that i don't know something, to ask questions, and always try to learn something new. We can't know everything, but we can admit that there are so many things we don't know continue to search for answers.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:29 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I like to go by the phrase "Work Hard, Play Hard"
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:27 AM   #39 (permalink)
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007nites same here. That's something thats common in my engineering class. Everybody in my uni says engineers and nurses work the hardest and party the hardest
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