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Old 09-24-2010, 10:02 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Its not as if Ford has the ability to do any of the things he is purposing. His staff and supporters make it seem like he is going to get elected and the next day everyone is going to be ponying up to the throne. In 11 years he has been on council he has made 0 friends, he has made enemies with every major union and has been black balled by the provincial libs. You need support to push an agenda. If you are voting Ford, your voting for a 4 year scream match with no results.
I don't know. I forget where I saw it (maybe blogTO), but they had photos of all these councillors kissing up to Ford - shaking his hand, etc - things they'd never done before. They ain't waiting for his hop on the throne.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:56 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Pantalone, Rocci and Thompson need to back out so they wont take potential votes away from Smitherman
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:18 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Ford is ahead by 13%, with 26% still undecided. Anything can happen, still can't help but look at this guy and wonder if he'd survive one term. He looks like he eats Big Macs for Breakfast.



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don't believe the LEFT WING propaganda FORD IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB
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quite honestly dude, how can you paint the entirety of the left as being propagandistic when it has been credibly proven that ford is lying with his numbers? how is it that his lies that are filling the airwaves are not propaganda, but some nefarious and spectre-like 'left' is being propagandistic by pointing out those falsehoods?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:22 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Ford is ahead by 13%, with 26% still undecided. Anything can happen, still can't help but look at this guy and wonder if he'd survive one term. He looks like he eats Big Macs for Breakfast.



This is an insult to Farley! Who I'd vote for in ANY election.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:27 PM   #90 (permalink)
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This is an insult to Farley! Who I'd vote for in ANY election.
Why, 2 fat drug addicts.
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nonsense. ford isn't a drug addict by any stretch. there are plenty of reasons not to vote for him without stooping to garbage like 'he's fat and does drugs'.

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quite honestly dude, how can you paint the entirety of the left as being propagandistic when it has been credibly proven that ford is lying with his numbers? how is it that his lies that are filling the airwaves are not propaganda, but some nefarious and spectre-like 'left' is being propagandistic by pointing out those falsehoods?
Quite honestly,

For the Toronto Star to go out saying "anyone but Ford" and campaigning that is crossing the line. You could go out saying you support one candidate but to print such garbage loses total credibility.

To blantantly discredit someones intelligence and bring up the wrongdoings of someones deceased father is just wrong.

Everyone lies with numbers. Their is no way you can give hand outs to every walk of life and still balance a budget. Their has to be parameters of some sort. I dare you to give me one Canadian Politician that hasn't lied.

Lastly, I'm not Right or Left wing. I just think Rob Ford is the best candidate for the job now. I really believe the smoking mirriors laid out by Rossi and Smitherman is 20 times more disgusting than anything Ford has done. At least ford has been true to a platform for the last 11 years in Municipal Politics.
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the papers almost always support one particular candidate. that's not crossing a line, it's commonplace.

discrediting intelligence is exactly what we need to do in an election. if people are morons, they don't qualify for a top office. that's precisely what we need to figure out. particularly if they have a habit of flying off the handle and being unprofessional in council. aggressive is one thing. aggressive and stupid is quite another.

a politician campaigning on cleaning up waste in city hall and preaching fiscal responsibility has the onus on himself not to completely fudge numbers. i mean, you can be off by a bit and you can calculate your numbers differently, but to say something cost $6 million when it really cost $59,000 is just a straight up fabrication. it's easy to look frugal when you lie and say the council is spending 100 x what they really are.

and you never answered my question about propaganda...
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Pantalone has been true to a platform for almost 30 years. At least I think he has. It's not always easy to figure out just what he stands for. But it does look pretty clear that he's more interested in public service than just acquiring political power.
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the papers almost always support one particular candidate. that's not crossing a line, it's commonplace.

discrediting intelligence is exactly what we need to do in an election. if people are morons, they don't qualify for a top office. that's precisely what we need to figure out. particularly if they have a habit of flying off the handle and being unprofessional in council. aggressive is one thing. aggressive and stupid is quite another.

a politician campaigning on cleaning up waste in city hall and preaching fiscal responsibility has the onus on himself not to completely fudge numbers. i mean, you can be off by a bit and you can calculate your numbers differently, but to say something cost $6 million when it really cost $59,000 is just a straight up fabrication. it's easy to look frugal when you lie and say the council is spending 100 x what they really are.

and you never answered my question about propaganda...
Sorry what did you say about propaganda I was was busy reading NOW magazine.


As for discrediting intelligence you don't need to be a brain surgeon to be mayor. Mayor Mel was running North York for decades and he turned a farm field into a very busy part of Toronto today. Someone has to clean the economic toilet now known as downtown Toronto. Having Etobicoke, North York and Scarb do the job for them is insane. Having cut half the meatheads in City Hall is a good start (unfortunately that will problably take two terms to happen)
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Sorry what did you say about propaganda I was was busy reading NOW magazine.
i know you are being sarcastic, but i'll repeat anyways, since this is an important point.

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As for discrediting intelligence you don't need to be a brain surgeon to be mayor. Mayor Mel was running North York for decades and he turned a farm field into a very busy part of Toronto today. Someone has to clean the economic toilet now known as downtown Toronto. Having Etobicoke, North York and Scarb do the job for them is insane. Having cut half the meatheads in City Hall is a good start (unfortunately that will problably take two terms to happen)
it's the top political job in the city. intelligence matters. i don't need a brain surgeon, but i do need someone who isn't dumb. it is more than reasonable to question intelligence.
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i know you are being sarcastic, but i'll repeat anyways, since this is an important point.
I'll say this much. Their is no way you can make multiple promises and at the same time control spending. Their is no way you can dig a hole underneath Eglinton, Subways and get it to pop out of Chinatown for 10 million a foot or whatever cost he suggested (prob have a better chance at digging a hole to China). All these candidates have a false platforms and act like little children during debates. Personally I thought Rossi was the guy for the job but they he had to make Mobster commercials and go out digging holes to Chinatown (potentially). Smitherman .... next .... he makes Paul Martin look legitimate at times (well ya thats too far but not taking responsibility for E health is laughable). The propoganda machine is clearly spewing out for the candidates leaning left but its all ok because its really helping Ford. Ford isn't perfect but at least he always reverts to policies he laid out since day one. Cut spending and cut city hall. I'm tired of politicians trying to get into my pocket and control the economy. It gets at times to be borderline infridgement of democracy. Less gov't control is the way to go for the movement of the entire country starting with Toronto IMHO and Ford is the only one that starts to enforce it.


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it's the top political job in the city. intelligence matters. i don't need a brain surgeon, but i do need someone who isn't dumb. it is more than reasonable to question intelligence.
Well the guys targeting Ford should stop because it just makes Ford look like a better candidate
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I'll make it simple. I support fiscal responsiblity and I believe Rob Ford will actually have that as a priority

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I'll make it simple. I support fiscal responsiblity and I believe Rob Ford will actually have that as a priority

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