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Old 10-11-2010, 01:35 AM   #181 (permalink)
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He still cant back up these financial plans with realistic stats.

It's like Bryan Colangelo trying to acquire Lebron James while being over the cap. Where will we get the cap-space from?

Any candidate could make these promises, all do, but to follow through? His hopes are way too high.

So what should we Torontonians also consider, along with these inadequate promises?

CHARACTER.

To further elude to my point on how Ford is not fit for the job.

Friday free-for-all: OLG search, Rob Ford's weight and more : Health : Canoe TV

D.U.I Charge.

And yes, I will continue to attack his character.

BECAUSE IT MATTERS

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Old 10-11-2010, 12:01 PM   #182 (permalink)
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He still cant back up these financial plans with realistic stats.

It's like Bryan Colangelo trying to acquire Lebron James while being over the cap. Where will we get the cap-space from?

Any candidate could make these promises, all do, but to follow through? His hopes are way too high.

So what should we Torontonians also consider, along with these inadequate promises?

CHARACTER.

To further elude to my point on how Ford is not fit for the job.

Friday free-for-all: OLG search, Rob Ford's weight and more : Health : Canoe TV

D.U.I Charge.

And yes, I will continue to attack his character.

BECAUSE IT MATTERS
Start attacking Smithermans character. Billion dollars from health care to his buddies (sounds like a Liberal thing to do ask Martin and Jean about that), slimey political practices to get away from the issues.

What matters is a change of direction. Downtown Toronto is a political toilet thanks to guys like Miller and Hall. At least Ford is looking out for some cost certainty to revive the economics of this city and try to stay competitive at a global stage.

Smitherman is just going to show us the Miller status quo. Tax the city to death and overspend.
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it would be a lot more convincing if you actually made a policy-related point once in a while.
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it would be a lot more convincing if you actually made a policy-related point once in a while.
Like DUI?
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how is that relevant benzo? i didn't say you can't say anything about personality or intelligence, just that policy-related points are quite relevant and any argument that essentially excludes them is weak.
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:11 PM   #186 (permalink)
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that's the kind of crap that destroys reasoned debate. boo-urns.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:09 PM   #188 (permalink)
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that's the kind of crap that destroys reasoned debate. boo-urns.
True, but since i believe it, whatever.
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atta boy jeff. nothing like a good head to head shouting match instead of a reasoned discussion. civic politics at its best...
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atta boy jeff. nothing like a good head to head shouting match instead of a reasoned discussion. civic politics at its best...
Who's shouting?
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how is that relevant benzo? i didn't say you can't say anything about personality or intelligence, just that policy-related points are quite relevant and any argument that essentially excludes them is weak.
Just saying you took DVS to task about not posting policy, when Kuzzy just went on and on about DUI and character for 3 pages.
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Just saying you took DVS to task about not posting policy, when Kuzzy just went on and on about DUI and character for 3 pages.
fair enough. i think kuzzy was going about it the wrong way too. better?
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A new poll conducted over Thanksgiving weekend shows a dead heat between Toronto mayoral frontrunners Rob Ford and George Smitherman, with the former deputy premier edging the Etobicoke councillor by one percentage point.

Of the 400 people surveyed in the Ipsos Reid poll, conducted for Newstalk 1010, 31 per cent said they plan to vote for Mr. Smitherman – and 30 per cent supported Mr. Ford. Deputy mayor Joe Pantalone garnered 11 per cent of the vote, while 4 per cent of those polled said they’d vote for Rocco Rossi if the vote were held tomorrow.
Smitherman, Ford in dead heat in race for Toronto mayor: poll - The Globe and Mail
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Looks like some that are voting could care less about economics and the global economy and rather piss away money for now and not for competition


Typical
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Looks like some that are voting could care less about economics and the global economy and rather piss away money for now and not for competition


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Ford would be nothing but an embarassment to this city. He's a dolt.
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Ford would be nothing but an embarassment to this city. He's a dolt.
Nice we get an argument of not sticking to the issues in this thread and looky here this is all we get
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Nice we get an argument of not sticking to the issues in this thread and looky here this is all we get
Him being a dolt is an issue for me. lol
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Him being a dolt is an issue for me. lol
Its Jeffb's world everyone else is just trying to say their piece
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Just saying you took DVS to task about not posting policy, when Kuzzy just went on and on about DUI and character for 3 pages.


I'm not teaming up with Trane here or anything.
Policy related points are great, and both DVS and Trane have argued them for more then 3 pages now.
Just thought I would bring in another perspective, one that truly matters.
Come on, I understand people make mistakes but:

- wife-beating
- gay bashing
- racist
- dui
-marijuana charges
-stating "homeless persons affect tourism"

Politcally incorrect can be great some times. But the things listed above, say more then just 'politcally incorrect'.

Policy related points are interesting, but that doesn't mean a candidates lack of character shouldn't be discussed.

At the end of the day, a mayor can bring up several ideas, but he'll need support to have them approved. So with regards to policy, its not really derived from one single person. Ford is not his own political party.

When I think mayor, I think of someone who will represent this country in a approvable manner.
I don't expect charismatic leadership, but having a racist, wife-beating, and gay-bashing man represent us Torontoians just does not suite me too well.
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