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Someguy again 09-29-2010 09:28 PM

Summer vacation
 
We don't need it, should be replaced with summer school.

In the summer kids literally do nothing, making our them fall behind. The transition from summer vacation to the daily school grind is slow and when they finally get used to it, the break is already here and they start from sqaure one again.

thoughts?

fancylad 09-29-2010 09:34 PM

terrible idea!!!!!!!! ;)

(note: i'm just using the smilie to be nice.)

fancylad 09-29-2010 09:35 PM

to expand on it, it would really ruin a huge part of childhood and growing up. I think that's the biggest thing.

also being married to a teacher it makes my summers easier.

js12 09-29-2010 09:35 PM

(aims sniper rifle)

jeffb 09-29-2010 09:39 PM

School all year round :puke:


Plus kids don't like school as it is. Send them to school 11 months out of the year and see how motivated they are to go to college/university.

Someguy again 09-29-2010 09:41 PM

more intensified schooling throughout the year might mean higher grades, plus there will be more younger HS graduates to fill in the workplace when the baby boomers start to drop out for retirement.

It's not a matter of childhood memories, we need this to support the economy with the gigantic dependancy load in the future.

jeffb 09-29-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 438763)
more intensified schooling throughout the year might mean higher grades

Yeah right. The more overload, the more burned out students get on school.

Someguy again 09-29-2010 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 438764)
Yeah right. The more overload, the more burned out students get on school.

explain private schools ,university and colleges. By the way, when the workload is spread out through the entire year, it's less stressful, unlike what happened when we removed grade 13 to shove 5 years of high school academics into 4 years.

js12 09-29-2010 09:46 PM

I disagree. You can't just overload the student with work.

They need time off, and summer's the best time to do it. It's hard to learn in a hot and humid environment. Plus, there needs to be a time for a student to adjust. You can't expect them to go from one grade to another overnight.

Someguy again 09-29-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js12 (Post 438767)
I disagree. You can't just overload the student with work.

They need time off, and summer's the best time to do it. It's hard to learn in a hot and humid environment. Plus, there needs to be a time for a student to adjust. You can't expect them to go from one grade to another overnight.

There is a program in the states (I will find the article in a magazine and cite it once I find it) where there's summer school that is fun and relaxing for children, plus it's very helpful for the parents who are working especially low income families in the economy recession today who can't afford to hire baby sitters and worry about their children at work.

jeffb 09-29-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 438769)
There is a program in the states (I will find the article in a magazine and cite it once I find it) where there's summer school that is fun and relaxing for children, plus it's very helpful for the parents who are working especially low income families in the economy recession today who can't afford to hire baby sitters and worry about their children at work.

I went to summer school once for extra credit and i gotta say it was a waste of time. I learned fuck all. The teachers didn't give a shit and it basically was given to us. And i have to say i regretted it the whole time because i missed out that summer on just doing things kids do. Sending kids to school that much is rediculous imo.

Someguy again 09-29-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 438773)
I went to summer school once for extra credit and i gotta say it was a waste of time. I learned fuck all. The teachers didn't give a shit and it basically was given to us. And i have to say i regretted it the whole time because i missed out that summer on just doing things kids do. Sending kids to school that much is rediculous imo.

ya ;)

but seriously, when the students get accustomed to the year round school years, of course they'll just find it as a fact of life and accept, knowing the fact that they can finish their schooling early. Also remember that anything a child learns under the age of 7 - 8 stays with them forever, pooling all the information during that tender stage in their life can mean a great success to their future.

simplycrazy 09-29-2010 10:19 PM

Had to log in to reply to this.
as a 16 year old i have to say no.

1st: the heat and humidity of the summer would make it hell to be in an underfunded school (such as mine, it was bad in may, it would be horrible in july/ August) Learning/stdying is extremely difficult in such heat, studying for my exams in june with 40 degree weather was not easy.

2nd: takes out possibility of summer school. Summer school is used for failed courses, or to promote to an even higher course, or to simply get an extra credit out of the way. Students rely on this so they do not need to take a 5th year, so they can get extra credits, or so they can take courses they like, as well as get the required courses for university programs. Teachers do summer school for extra money if neccesary.

3rd: summer programs. Schools offer a whole lot of summer programs that are very good. For example my school offers students the possibility to travel to africa for 3-4 weeks in the summer and do some type of charity work. there are many other programs, that are just as meaningful as these. THey are life changing programs, that you do not get to experience sitting behind a text book.

4th: summer job. Personally, no way in hell that my parents will be able to pay for university alone.

5th: teacher - ciriculum aspect. My high school is relitivly small, about 800 students. during the summer, the new student - schedual creating process - mailing - schedual changing process takes well over a month. If there would be no summer vacation (or a shorter one) then come school time the course scheduals would be so messed up it would be chaos. With only 800 students, and an entire 2 months to plan the scheduals, it was still chaos.

Not only that, but the amount of time it takes usually to plan the teaching curriculum, order new materials, if neccesary, which it usually is in some cases (most of the time the science departments), schools wouldnt even be ready to in such a short period of time. especially in under-funded schools like mine.

6th: students. the amount some students hate school. skipping classes has is a normal now, and even of you go to classes, many students dont do anything in them. if you extend the amount of school more students will get fed up, and there will be less effort put through. I know this because usually around march students get tired of school and start to not do there school work.

So essentially, your gonna take a whole summer full of nothing, and convert that to a bunch of nothing in school while the teacher is getting paid. :cwm34:



personally, i will never give up my summer, if the change does happen in my schooling life time. Ive discussed this with my parents, and we have agreed that if this does take place, while im in school (we have heard discussion about this in many different places) then i will move to Europe and live with my Aunt, and go to school there.

summer vacation should stay, the only people i ever notice, who do "Nothing" during summer, are people who are too dumb to find fun/ something useful to do by themselves.

i think its a horrible idea to take summer vacation away, or even to shorten it by a large margin.

i hope i dont have to write any more of these giant posts. :/

Dark Knight 09-29-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 438753)
We don't need it, should be replaced with summer school.

In the summer kids literally do nothing, making our them fall behind. The transition from summer vacation to the daily school grind is slow and when they finally get used to it, the break is already here and they start from sqaure one again.

thoughts?

......Fuck you.......

:police:

Gurk 09-29-2010 10:32 PM

DK go get my AK :P

INSIDER 09-29-2010 10:51 PM

someguy, arent you the same one who said they wouldnt allow their kid to have/watch tv ever?
and now you want to throw them in school all year round?
:tombstone:

jeffb 09-29-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 438787)
someguy, arent you the same one who said they wouldnt allow their kid to have/watch tv ever?
and now you want to throw them in school all year round?
:tombstone:

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INSIDER 09-29-2010 10:59 PM

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Nites 09-30-2010 01:01 AM

lmfao. Bad idea though. One of the main things that got me through school was knowing that there was a reward ahead for all of my hard work. Summer.

Windex 09-30-2010 05:17 AM

I think in Japan they only have 2 weeks off in between semesters

Im going to go thru a similar thing now in college


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