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Dr. J. Naismith 05-15-2008 01:19 PM

Should there be public/high schools open to only one race?
This might be an interesting discussion considering Toronto is or already has open up their own African American high school. What are your thoughts? :confused2:

In 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional, and a violation of the 14th Amendment, which grants equal protection under the law to all citizens, regardless of race. In the decades that followed, school systems took steps - oftentimes unwillingly - to obey that ruling, sometimes busing students considerable distances in order to achieve mandated racial integration. Even so, de facto segregation has remained common, largely because of demographic patterns and school systems that are built around neighbourhoods: if virtually all of the residents of a school district are of only one race, the school is, as a result, populated by only one race as well. In recent years, however, there has been growing sentiment for a new kind of de jure segregation, one that is deliberate, rather than accidental: it has been argued that black males, in particular, are better served educationally in all-black (and all-male) schools - and that public school systems should provide such an option. Opponents of single-race schools are skeptical about the purported benefits of such institutions, and they reject any system, however well-intentioned, that violates the judicial ban on segregation.

Jay 05-16-2008 12:16 AM

Okay, I'm going to be the first one to comment on this. I am SERIOUSLY against this. There are so many things I hate about the creation of a black, oops, sorry, Afrocentric school in Toronto. First, in my opinion, it makes it seem like black people always need a crutch. There's always an excuse for why a black student can't do just as well as any of the white, Asian or South Asian students. Before, it was that the teachers couldn't communicate with the students. Then it was the language. Then it was that there were no role models. Now it's the curriculum. At what point do we as black people say enough is enough and start to take responsibility for ourselves and our futures?

I'm wondering how universities are going to equate an Afrocentric school compared to a regular curriculum school. I'm not suggesting any bias or racism on the part of universities, but are they realistically going to be able to place a proper evaluation on the development of students attending the school? How do you compare those going to Afrocentric schools and those going to regular schools?

I also don't like the fact that this is happening in the most multicultural city in the world. Why create an artificial learning centre for yourself? Okay, so fine, you go to an Afrocentric school...but what happens when you walk out the door and back into society? Things look a lot different than they do inside the school doors. Even if where you live is majority black, what about when you're moving within the city? How are you going to interact with people from different cultures when you don't know anything about them? That was one of my favourite things about high school. Our school had everything, from Indians to Croatians to Greeks to Jamaicans, everything. At school BBQs, we sold more samosas than burgers.

School isn't just about learning in books. It's about learning how to socialize, compromise, interact, see different viewpoints...to cut yourself off just seems shortsighted.

Okay, before I just start rambling, let me finish up by saying, what if this doesn't work? What then? What if the grades still don't look great? Does the finger pointing start where students or teachers start saying that the school isn't receiving the proper amount of support? Do the parents start saying that there is too much pressure on the students because now they feel they are under a microscope? If this doesn't work, what's the next excuse?

IggyPosterizes 05-16-2008 02:42 AM

this is gonna cause more problems that it will solve.

The MVP of West Hollywood 05-19-2008 10:45 PM

Any seperation or "singling out" is bad. In an ideal society race would mean about as much as the size of someone's nose. Even black history month is sketchy.

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