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Doug Ford Accuses Autistic Child's Dad Of Being Part Of 'Jihad'

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Mammoliti is a bigger fuckup than Ford. And he doesn't get to blame any drunken stupors - just amnesia. Money wins over democracy once again.

http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=198771
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Mammoliti is a bigger fuckup than Ford. And he doesn't get to blame any drunken stupors - just amnesia. Money wins over democracy once again.

Anatomy of a scandal: Mammoliti’s big bash | NOW Magazine
Isn't he friends with the Ford's? I swear he always defends them...
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Isn't he friends with the Ford's? I swear he always defends them...
He rides any coattails he can. He was an NDP MPP in the 90‘s. Then joined the Liberals. He had disputes with Rob as a councilor. Ford called him Gino Boy at one point. He endorsed Tory for Mayor. Then ran against Ford, only to quickly drop out to support him and secure the seat next to him as his right hand man.

He called for jane and finch to be occupied by the canadian armed forces, and more than once called for a red light district on the island. He might be a bigger homophobe than Ford. He is generally insane.
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jesus. christ. RT @ddale8: Breaking: Mayor Rob Ford is lone vote against finding ways to better help gay homeless youth. 37-1 vote.

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The three-part proposal asks the city’s shelters chief to look into allocating 25 per cent of beds in an existing youth shelter to people who identify as LGBTQ2S (lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, two-spirited).
I don't know if I agree with it...why allocate beds to any group. If their is a lgbt bed open, are they going to turn away a homeless straight person?

I'm actually surprised it was 37-1. If physical abuse is a problem for anybody in shelters they need more resources directed to the shelter.

The Toronto Star needs to give it a rest imo. Just chill out. Let him dig his own grave, or not dig his own grave. Or let the naked jogger do it. He did a good job.

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I don't know if I agree with it...why allocate beds to any group. If their is a lgbt bed open, are they going to turn away a homeless straight person?

I'm actually surprised it was 37-1. If physical abuse is a problem for anybody in shelters they need more resources directed to the shelter.

The Toronto Star needs to give it a rest imo. Just chill out. Let him dig his own grave, or not dig his own grave. Or let the naked jogger do it. He did a good job.
If you can find shelters with regular vacancies I'd love to hear anout them.

21% of homeless youth are lgbt. Allocatong some beds proportionally hardly seems like a bad idea, especially with homophobia and violence being a regular part of the lives of homeless people.

We are talking aboit creating safety for the vulnerable. What kind of a douchenozzle stands up to say no to that?
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If you can find shelters with regular vacancies I'd love to hear anout them.

21% of homeless youth are lgbt. Allocatong some beds proportionally hardly seems like a bad idea, especially with homophobia and violence being a regular part of the lives of homeless people.

We are talking aboit creating safety for the vulnerable. What kind of a douchenozzle stands up to say no to that?
High school kids who are lgbt are also vulnerable to physical abuse. Should we have separate high schools? Is that really a solution? How legit is that 21% figure? How do you determine who is LGBT? How feasible is this really? Aren't all homeless vulnerable? How do you pick and choose who is vulnerable? Based on sexuality?

I'm not against it or for it, I don't know enough about it. But I'm definitely shocked that 37 people would vote for it and 1 against it. It's not black and white to me. And I wouldn't say that just because somebody votes against it means they are homophobic.

And I'm not saying I don't think Rob Ford is Homophobic. But the Toronto Star and Toronto council are too focused on making Rob Ford look bad rather than doing their jobs. And I think that was probably part of the reason for the 37-1 vote - to make a story.

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I agree with bjjs. If anyone needs a bed in these shelters whether gay / straight, they should be looked at as a person in need. Why segregate the beds? That may just cause more anger and problems towards LGBT.
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High school kids who are lgbt are also vulnerable to physical abuse. Should we have separate high schools? Is that really a solution? How legit is that 21% figure? How do you determine who is LGBT? How feasible is this really?

I'm not against it or for it, I don't know enough about it. But I'm definitely shocked that 37 people would vote for it and 1 against it. It's not black and white to me. And I wouldn't say that just because somebody votes against that means they are homophobic.

And I'm not saying I don't think Rob Ford is Homophobic. But the Toronto Star and Toronto council are to focused on making Rob Ford look bad rather than doing their jobs. And I think that was probably part of the reason for the 37-1 vote - to make a story.
he is homophobic and everyone knows that so that will be what is focused on. i'll say this, he has balls. he could have easily voted for it for publicity given his homophobic reputation.
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High school kids who are lgbt are also vulnerable to physical abuse. Should we have separate high schools? Is that really a solution? How legit is that 21% figure? How do you determine who is LGBT? How feasible is this really? Aren't all homeless vulnerable? How do you pick and choose who is vulnerable? Based on sexuality?

I'm not against it or for it, I don't know enough about it. But I'm definitely shocked that 37 people would vote for it and 1 against it. It's not black and white to me. And I wouldn't say that just because somebody votes against it means they are homophobic.

And I'm not saying I don't think Rob Ford is Homophobic. But the Toronto Star and Toronto council are too focused on making Rob Ford look bad rather than doing their jobs. And I think that was probably part of the reason for the 37-1 vote - to make a story.
high schools and homeless shelters are so glaringly different (purpose, population, structure, funding, mental health) that i don't even know where to start with your first point. and the 21% figure is quoted in the article.

yes, most homeless people are in some way vulnerable. that's why shelters exist. but the argument is that there is a particular problem with non-straight youth homelessness. they are represented in a higher proportion in the homeless population than in the mainstream population but double, and they are having trouble finding spaces for basic shelter because they are being actively discriminated against and abused in one form or another. the idea is to create a place of safety for a targeted group. much of the time these kids are fleeing their own homes because of their sexuality, only to be cast out from shelters for the same reason. they need a space where they are not living in fear.

it was 37-1 because it is such an obviously decent idea, and certainly worth a try. councillors from all stripes voted for this based on a report from the front-line people that work in this community. and there is no financial impact to the city.

why would any media not report that the mayor is out-voted 37-1 on any issue? and this is just a few days after he was the lone person who refused to stand for an ovation in council to thank the organizers of world pride. ford looks like a kind d-bag in this situation.
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I think school comparison was valid.

There is likely some cost, Ford seemed to be under the impression it would cost $2.2MM. I didn't read the report so I don't know what the actual facts are that support the idea which I fully understand. Just because it's a noble heart-felt cause doesn't mean it's logical or the correct decision to make. It's a complex decision involving scarce resources. Being yay or nay does not a homophobe make.

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Being yay or nay does not a homophobe make.
except he's already known to be just that.
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except he's already known to be just that.
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37-1 so Doug voted yes. As for the Star reporting it, it's just fuel to the fire, it's well known they're anti-Ford, they don't report every vote and I'm sure he's been in the minority before (maybe not 37-1, although I wonder what the vote was when he voted against a pay hike for city councillors). Given the involvement of the LGBT community and Ford this makes the story more sensational and furthers they're claim he's homophobic.
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37-1 so Doug voted yes. As for the Star reporting it, it's just fuel to the fire, it's well known they're anti-Ford, they don't report every vote and I'm sure he's been in the minority before (maybe not 37-1, although I wonder what the vote was when he voted against a pay hike for city councillors). Given the involvement of the LGBT community and Ford this makes the story more sensational and furthers they're claim he's homophobic.
Their claim? It's secret this asshole is homophobic.
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Their claim? It's secret this asshole is homophobic.
I'm not saying he's not homophobic but for arguments sake, what makes him homophobic to you?
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I'm not saying he's not homophobic but for arguments sake, what makes him homophobic to you?
His actions toward the pride parade speaks volumes, and he's used homophobic slurs in the past, caught on video. It's pretty obvious he is homophobic and racist for that matter.
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