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NDP 8 22.86%
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:12 PM   #61 (permalink)
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if you can't choose between either dbag at the federal level, make your choice based on your local representative. thts the way it should work anyways.
It would be really nice if we could vote for a local rep and a party or leader and have the vote for the party go towards proportional representation.

Our current system was made to work with two strong parties. Those that don't like how things have gone with minorities do have a point in that regard - the system wasn't made to work in these circumstances. So it really does need to change.
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I'm voting NDP-the middle-class and small businesses. this pathetically stagnating political system is making me puke though.
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:58 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I'm voting NDP-the middle-class and small businesses. this pathetically stagnating political system is making me puke though.
im sorry but this is why we've been stuck with a conservative government for so long. the left votes are split between the liberals and NDP. for gods sake, do you honestly believe the NDP will win the election? and if they do, do you really think they know how to run an economy given their track record? save yourself the breath and this country and vote liberal. just mho
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im sorry but this is why we've been stuck with a conservative government for so long. the left votes are split between the liberals and NDP. for gods sake, do you honestly believe the NDP will win the election? and if they do, do you really think they know how to run an economy given their track record? save yourself the breath and this country and vote liberal. just mho
The answer to that problem is to split the right again, not to use a fake consensus for the sole purpose of "beating the other guys."
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I'm voting NDP-the middle-class and small businesses. this pathetically stagnating political system is making me puke though.
This is a joke right?
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have you looked at their platform this tie around benzo? that is definitely who they are targeting.
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This is a joke right?
The parts of their platform that stood out to me:

-a reduction in small business tax from 11% to 9%
-job creation tax credit for new hires
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im sorry but this is why we've been stuck with a conservative government for so long. the left votes are split between the liberals and NDP. for gods sake, do you honestly believe the NDP will win the election? and if they do, do you really think they know how to run an economy given their track record? save yourself the breath and this country and vote liberal. just mho
It is not my problem that minority governments are turtles when it comes to getting things done. My job as a citizen is to make an informed vote.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1985368/

we might just see a huge upswing in the youth vote this time around.
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I have always leaned towards the Green party but only once have I been able to convince myself to actually vote for them at the Federal or Provincial level. Find out why below:

Sandwalk: Do Not Vote for the Anti-Science Green Party
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The parts of their platform that stood out to me:

-a reduction in small business tax from 11% to 9%
-job creation tax credit for new hires
That is so incredibly simplistic it is not even funny.

I will find time later to refute
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I have always leaned towards the Green party but only once have I been able to convince myself to actually vote for them at the Federal or Provincial level. Find out why below:

Sandwalk: Do Not Vote for the Anti-Science Green Party
For fuck's sake. Oh, well, thanks for the link.

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I have always leaned towards the Green party but only once have I been able to convince myself to actually vote for them at the Federal or Provincial level. Find out why below:

Sandwalk: Do Not Vote for the Anti-Science Green Party
ive always hated the green party and their followers for blindly stating what they believe to be facts. now im downright disgusted. close down all nuclear plants and prohibit the building of new ones? where is 40 percent of ontario's electricity going to come from geniouses? a vote for green is a vote for darkness.

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Thanks a heap, Rick Mercer – the students might actually vote - The Globe and Mail

we might just see a huge upswing in the youth vote this time around.
music to my ears since the liberals are all about supporting university student's and their tuitions.
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hey guys just wondering is there a link where i can see the parties platform since ive been busy studying for exams and wanna know if im making the right vote or not
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hey guys just wondering is there a link where i can see the parties platform since ive been busy studying for exams and wanna know if im making the right vote or not
If you don't make the right vote, you're not.
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I have always leaned towards the Green party but only once have I been able to convince myself to actually vote for them at the Federal or Provincial level. Find out why below:

Sandwalk: Do Not Vote for the Anti-Science Green Party
I find this guy's position pretty extreme in the way he calls alternative practitioners quacks. I think the Green promotion of them is a little reflexive, and I certainly want to see an emphasis on medicine, but they do get enough results and have positively been blended within health centers. "Quacks" makes it hard for me to get past this guy's bias.

My dog was helped instantly by a chiropractor. I never gave chiropractors any credence before that. The idea of making use of one for a dog went even farther beyond any threshold I was willing to cross. But it worked where veterinary medicine failed. The dog had been urinating every twenty minutes for a week, and then just back to normal. That's not to say there aren't quacks involved. Regulation is needed.

As for their stance on nukes - I don't see how that makes them anti-science. Did I miss something? Has science come up with a means of disposing of nuclear waste, or coming up with the foolproof means of preventing extremely long-term damage through accidents, attacks, or catastrophes? Again - the Green position is reflexive, and as a governing party that is not what I would look for. But as a voice that could move the mainstream in a different direction slightly, I don't find that so problematic.
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I find this guy's position pretty extreme in the way he calls alternative practitioners quacks. I think the Green promotion of them is a little reflexive, and I certainly want to see an emphasis on medicine, but they do get enough results and have positively been blended within health centers. "Quacks" makes it hard for me to get past this guy's bias.

My dog was helped instantly by a chiropractor. I never gave chiropractors any credence before that. The idea of making use of one for a dog went even farther beyond any threshold I was willing to cross. But it worked where veterinary medicine failed. The dog had been urinating every twenty minutes for a week, and then just back to normal. That's not to say there aren't quacks involved. Regulation is needed.

As for their stance on nukes - I don't see how that makes them anti-science. Did I miss something? Has science come up with a means of disposing of nuclear waste, or coming up with the foolproof means of preventing extremely long-term damage through accidents, attacks, or catastrophes? Again - the Green position is reflexive, and as a governing party that is not what I would look for. But as a voice that could move the mainstream in a different direction slightly, I don't find that so problematic.
sure nuclear energy isnt the safest out there, but keep in mind its the cleanest efficient source of energy. what a nuclear plant can make in one day, an arguable safer alternative such as solar would make in a month, possibly more depending on the season. Sure we should invest money in cleaner energy, but to cut nuclear power, at this stage of development in terms of clean energy is suicide in terms of power availability.
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If you don't make the right vote, you're not.
haha im leaning towards the liberals since i dont like the conservatives, but i want to know which party platform is the best to vote for a student like myself
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sure nuclear energy isnt the safest out there, but keep in mind its the cleanest efficient source of energy. what a nuclear plant can make in one day, an arguable safer alternative such as solar would make in a month, possibly more depending on the season. Sure we should invest money in cleaner energy, but to cut nuclear power, at this stage of development in terms of clean energy is suicide in terms of power availability.
And my point is that the Greens are not going to be able to implement such a plan. It is a goal that should be vocalized all the same.
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haha im leaning towards the liberals since i dont like the conservatives, but i want to know which party platform is the best to vote for a student like myself
A wise man once said, "If you are under 30 and are not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you are over 30 and are not a conservative you don't have a brain"

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