Prime Minister Stephane Dion
Old 12-01-2008, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
the only guy who thinks Terrence Ross will be an all-star

Senior Member
 
The MVP of West Hollywood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,129
Representing:
Default Prime Minister Stephane Dion

God help us all!!!

Quote:
Opposition agrees to coalition with Dion as PM

Updated Mon. Dec. 1 2008 7:44 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

In a historic political move, the leaders of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc Quebecois signed a formal agreement Monday to topple the Tories and co-operate as a coalition government for at least 18 months.

"I'm pleased to announce we are ready to form a government," said Dion, adding that the new alliance will govern "effectively, prudently, promptly and competently address these critical economic times."

Dion said the coalition will include a pared-down cabinet with 24 ministers plus the prime minister. Six of those spots will go to the NDP.

The opposition plans to take down the government with a confidence vote next Monday.

Earlier on Monday, Dion announced that he would inform Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean that he had secured enough parliamentary support to form a new government. Under the constitution, the Governor General must approve the new government or call an election.

"Canadians elected 308 members of Parliament in October, not just Stephen Harper," said Dion, noting the new government would "promptly" implement an economic stimulus plan.

Dion was clear that he would step aside when the Liberals elect a new leader in Vancouver on May 2.

NDP Leader Jack Layton said the agreement represented "enormous optimism" and represents a new way of governing, where parties can put aside their differences for the greater good of Canadians.

"I think it's likely to produce very good government. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be here," he said.

Tories mull their options

The Conservatives, meanwhile, said they would consider "all options" to stop the new coalition from taking power, The Canadian Press reported.

One possible plan would be to prorogue until the Tories deliver their budget, which would shut down Parliament until January.

But that would only be delaying an inevitable defeat for Harper, according to Errol Mendes, a constitutional expert at the University of Ottawa.

Additionally, Harper could ask the Governor General to dissolve Parliament and call another election, but that is also unlikely, said Mendes.

"It would be insane to grant that dissolution, given that we just had an election eight weeks before," he told CTV Newsnet.

Meanwhile, Tory Environment Minister John Baird said that it was shocking to see the Liberal party "get in bed" with the NDP and the Bloc.

"Canadians are going to go ballistic when they see the photos of these three," he told Mike Duffy Live.

"These big spenders seem to be ready to go on an orgy of big spending on the tax payer's dime. It's taking out the credit card, giving it over to Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppes and saying 'here, go nuts.'"

Grits unite behind Dion

The announcement comes only hours after the three Liberal leadership contenders said they would support Dion as the leader of a new government coalition with the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois.

Speaking outside of the Liberal caucus meeting, Dominic LeBlanc, standing shoulder to shoulder with Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff, said they all back the deal forged with the NDP.

"The accord that was presented to us received unanimous support and the other issue which is very important is we decided the only person and the best person to lead and form a coalition government is the elected leader of our party, the leader of the opposition Stephane Dion," LeBlanc said.

Ignatieff echoed his words, saying the coalition deal is economically responsible, preserves Liberal ideals and upholds Dion as party leader until May.

"We are at one, the three of us, that the only person who can lead the party is the duly elected leader of the party Mr. Stephane Dion," Ignatieff said.

Earlier Monday the candidates met with Dion, who presented them with the draft agreement that has been negotiated with the New Democrats and the Bloc Quebecois, who would support the coalition from outside of government.

The current political storm erupted last week after Finance Minister Jim Flaherty unveiled his economic update -- a blueprint that contained no stimulus package, temporarily shut down public servants' ability to strike and outlined plans to slash public funding for political parties.

As a confidence motion the fiscal update must pass in the House of Commons or the government would fall.

Almost immediately after Flaherty's announcement, opposition parties began meeting to discuss forming a coalition.

Details have been in the finalization process over the weekend and on Monday as party members worked to hammer out an agreement to topple the Conservatives.

In Parliament Monday afternoon, Dion accused Harper of playing politics at a time when Canadians are worried about their jobs.

"Does the prime minister still believe he enjoys the confidence of this House?" asked Dion.

Harper responded that his government has already taken action for the economy, including helping seniors and doubling infrastructure spending.

Harper added that Dion is "about to play the biggest political game in history" by toppling the Conservative government.

But Liberal Sen. David Smith said the opposition parties were galvanized by Harper's increasingly "aggressive" tone since the last election.

While countries like the U.S. have been breaking down partisan barriers to battle economic problems, Harper has been attacking his rivals, Smith told CTV Newsnet.

"(It) just made everybody made and did nothing to stimulate the economy."

Economic guidance

CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife reported earlier Monday that a high-profile, four-person economic panel would guide a Liberal-NDP coalition government on finance matters.

The group would comprise Frank McKenna, Paul Martin, John Manley and Roy Romanow.

McKenna is a former Liberal premier of New Brunswick and ambassador to the U.S., Martin is a former Liberal finance minister and prime minister, Manley is a former Liberal finance minister and foreign affairs minister, and Romanow is a former New Democrat premier of Saskatchewan.

The panel of "wise men" would help the new government navigate the current global economic turbulence, said Fife.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

I can't believe this shit actually happened... it's like a bad dystopia movie. Dion, Layton, and the Bloc pulling a governmental mutiny in an economic crisis. Woohoo!!!
The MVP of West Hollywood is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
...

Resident Mavs Fan
 
10gizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,219
Representing:
Default

Disgusting...Absolutely disgusting.
10gizzle is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 10:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
N64
not here

Wildcard Bitches
 
N64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,617
Representing:
Default

Ya man wtf is happening?...I'm not even old to vote yet but a coalition government??? History might be made nxt Monday but i honestly don't see how this is going to help us
N64 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 10:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
landry fields forever

Administrator

 
Acie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Living in a van down by the river
Posts: 21,755
Representing:
Default

Almost as good as Harper wasting 300 million to have an election with an economic crisis looming.
Acie is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 10:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
Jay
is pounding the rock!

Administrator

 
Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,223
Representing:
Default

I'm torn on this. On one hand, it's not like the Canadian people really voted Harper in, since the majority of people voted for somebody other than the Conservatives. So in essence, Canadians are getting a version of what they voted for.

On the other hand, if ever there was a resounding message sent that Canadians were not comfortable with a certain person leading the country, it was the message that they sent about Dion. Maybe because of the coalition, he won't have his own agenda or the same power, but something about it just doesn't smell right.

The problem is, there are just too many damn parties. I'm getting really tired of federal politics. I should move back to Quebec.
Jay is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 11:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
is dead inside

you ain't bout that life
 
Gurk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21,644
Representing:
Default

This is some big BS. What is the point of this. Well this pretty much sums up the Canadian governement for you..
Gurk is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 11:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
waiting for the Masai-a

on ihateus
 
Torontosaurus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Victoria, home of the Nash-ites
Posts: 3,700
Representing:
Default

Wow.. just... Wow
Torontosaurus is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 11:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
I believe in Masai!

giant steps

 
'trane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 16,698
Representing:
Default

he pushed it too far. he acted like he had a majority, trying to limit the funds to his competition, deliver a weak economic report, and bully the other parties because he thought they were weak. the opposition, with help from the other justifiably angry parties, didn't take his bluff. now he's scrambling because he knows he overstepped his bounds. this is great stuff. exciting canadian politics, on one hand, and imo, the kind of bold move that this country really needed.
'trane is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 12:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
------------------------

Senior Member
 
XiaominWu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,429
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay View Post
I'm torn on this. On one hand, it's not like the Canadian people really voted Harper in, since the majority of people voted for somebody other than the Conservatives. So in essence, Canadians are getting a version of what they voted for.

On the other hand, if ever there was a resounding message sent that Canadians were not comfortable with a certain person leading the country, it was the message that they sent about Dion. Maybe because of the coalition, he won't have his own agenda or the same power, but something about it just doesn't smell right.

The problem is, there are just too many damn parties. I'm getting really tired of federal politics. I should move back to Quebec.
I expect you'll see Ignatieff in charge come May.
XiaominWu is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 12:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
enjoying having the keys to destiny

perusing ancient database
 
ClingRap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The far side of the Universe.
Posts: 1,953
Representing:
Default

I'm all for this. I actually don't mind Dion. He's a humble guy, and a lot of people don't realize that he's basically deaf, and so his low volume gets mistook for weakness or whatever. I'm personally sick of canadians who expect some tough sunbitch, or glad-handing businessmen to be a leader they can feel confident in. there's more room here people for a small town academic who was bang on when he called the tories on pretty much breaking ever rule in the electoral rule book.

those of you who think the sky is falling need to wake up and be thankful that we have some people in parliament who aren't willing to tolerate any more dysfunction and bullying. this increases their accountability tenfold, and lang's right, this is essentially what most canadians voted for.
ClingRap is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 12:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
summa!

怪獣
 
logicz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 884
Representing:
Default

i saw this on citytv, im not very political but man is this a whole lotta something ...
logicz is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 07:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
LX
synapse jelly

In the Paint


 
LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,739
Representing:
Default

National politics is almost entirely irrelevant. So if there is a God, and he is going to help us, he should focus on city and provincial issues. At the national level, politicians just work hard to make themselves look relevant while handing most of the real power over to the regional interests. I just don't see how any of this matters much, or how it's all that different from what Harper tried to do when Martin was PM.
LX is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 08:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
the next dictator of MLSE

fresh and clean
 
Windex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: uʍop ɹǝpun
Posts: 22,524
Representing:
Default

wait a sec how does Stephen Dion become PM when he wasn't elected?
Windex is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
hibernating

Retired Administrator
 
Benzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,289
Representing:
Default

This is seriously disgusting....on ALL sides. Remember when we looked south of the border in 2000 and chuckled...Well now we are the laughing stock.

Harper f'ed up....these other yahoo's are hilarious though. The Liberals have promised the NDP a quarter of the cabinet, however they do not have enough seats to overthrow the gov't themselves....SO the invite the the Bloc into the party....you know the guys who want to break up the country...sign a 2 year contract with them...AND THEN DON'T RELEASE WHAT IS IN THE CONTRACT....

I'm, fucking disgusted by these fuckos....time to overhaul the system and doaway with the possibilities of minority gov'ts.

For all this liberal flag waving, Pierre Trudeau is rolling over in his grave....The Bloc....THE FUCKING BLOC>...
Benzo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
the next dictator of MLSE

fresh and clean
 
Windex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: uʍop ɹǝpun
Posts: 22,524
Representing:
Default

why does Canada have a such a complicated political system? How does this happen? Is Harper going to be forced to resign? I just dont get it
Windex is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
saying too many dudes are Tyson Chandler, trying to lead their teams and went nowhere

Scarborough, We Go Hard..
 
MangoKidHoops's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,915
Representing:
Default

Simple as simple - I never trusted Stephen Harper - and he played with fire - and got burned - this is great too see. Who cares about what the Americans think about our government? They don't give a shit about us anyways. Hopefully, this is the start of something good.
MangoKidHoops is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:51 AM   #17 (permalink)
the next dictator of MLSE

fresh and clean
 
Windex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: uʍop ɹǝpun
Posts: 22,524
Representing:
Default

you can say bye to any big name free agents because taxes will go up with this french man in charge
Windex is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
hibernating

Retired Administrator
 
Benzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,289
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MangoKidHoops View Post
Simple as simple - I never trusted Stephen Harper - and he played with fire - and got burned - this is great too see. Who cares about what the Americans think about our government? They don't give a shit about us anyways. Hopefully, this is the start of something good.
Hoops please explain to me how he played with fire.

He fucked up....he tired to make a dramatic move to reduce the public funding to partys...which I am all for..he just should have done it after the stim pack.

THE FUCKING SEPRATISTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Benzo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:57 AM   #19 (permalink)
hibernating

Retired Administrator
 
Benzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,289
Representing:
Default

They the conservatives had a secret agenda...what can be more secret than having a deal with the bloc in place BEFORE harper did anything????
Benzo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 11:33 AM   #20 (permalink)
landry fields forever

Administrator

 
Acie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Living in a van down by the river
Posts: 21,755
Representing:
Default

Seriously, let Quebec seperate.

They can assume their part of the national debt too and then enjoy being a third world country.
Acie is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ron Artest 'sings' Celine Dion komot Entertainment Lounge 0 09-05-2009 01:09 AM
Celine Dion Interested In Buying The Habs Dr. J. Naismith Other Sports 18 04-17-2009 10:57 AM
If you were President/Prime Minister/Dictator Windex Entertainment Lounge 10 04-02-2009 02:26 AM
Does canada's science minister believe in evolution? 'trane The Podium 31 03-17-2009 09:23 PM
BC On Prime Time Sports Yesterday Dr. J. Naismith Toronto Raptors 11 09-11-2008 11:53 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24