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lonewolfpoet 05-19-2010 01:29 AM

No more fish in our oceans by 2050
 
Oceans' fish could disappear in 40 years: UN - Yahoo! Canada News

Superjudge 05-19-2010 08:47 AM

well there's some good new to start the day, can't wait to hear all the Right winger chime in about it though. Should be fun.

Our world is pretty much dying. I'm glad I'm more old than young.

DVS 05-19-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 379496)
well there's some good new to start the day, can't wait to hear all the Right winger chime in about it though. Should be fun.

Our world is pretty much dying. I'm glad I'm more old than young.

hehe

selfishly I"ll prob be dead by then or slowly on my way. So I dunno what to think about this. I only eat fish on fridays if that :)

'trane 05-19-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DVS (Post 379511)
hehe

selfishly I"ll prob be dead by then or slowly on my way. So I dunno what to think about this. I only eat fish on fridays if that :)

this has nothing to do with the fish you eat, and everything to do with the fish that the fish eat.

Superjudge 05-19-2010 10:58 AM

it's basically a two pronged issue.

Three really.

climate change is really messing up the aquatic ecosystem, and that is bad news for balance on the planet.

Pollution is another major issue as any significant change in shallow breeding waters can affect the success rates of the spawning cycle.

and lastly, over fishing. Ya, there's a demand because people refuse to use birth control and limit the staggering over population we have on this rock. We aren't helping the 3rd world people through education and finance and to be honest, all religion is fucked and creates an impossible scenario for basic common sensical population sustainability.

Don't worry, "God" will make a big flood that will kill all the bad folk and put everything back on order.

Ugh.

thought 05-19-2010 11:01 AM

I'm tired of these flavour of the day conspiracies. What will tomorrow be? I remember hearing one about bananas being extinct by 2020. Oh no! The only answer is an extreme paradigm shift changing the way we breathe, eat, work and live.

Windex 05-19-2010 11:16 AM

climate change :facepalm:
and I just heard about an increase of certain types of fish cause of all the restrictions they have

'trane 05-19-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 379523)
climate change :facepalm:
and I just heard about an increase of certain types of fish cause of all the restrictions they have

this kind of shit drives me insane.

you use a label - "climate change" - to categorize a multi-faceted issue as a political one-liner and then throw a complete red-herring out there with the "i just heard/some kind of fish" claim.

there are some real issues here that have nothing to do with climate change, or whatever you want to call that stuff.

-we overfish the oceans. this is patently obvious and supported by huge amounts of scientific data. but, putting that all aside, is it not completely obvious to you that if we pull fish out at a rate faster than they can reproduce we will end up with dwindling fish stocks? i mean, isn't this just elemental logic? add to that the fact that we are breeding certain fish stocks in massive numbers and we still can't keep pace with the rate at which we are taking them out of the water. ... ?

-we pollute massively. whether this causes warming, cooling or any climate change at all is irrelevant. we are dumping chemicals and garbage into ecosystems at ever-increasing rates. this poisons the animals that live there and the food we eat. this is also supported by huge amounts of scientific data that look at the chemical contents of fish and aquatic plant life.
this can't possibly be good for us. find me one nutritional source that says it is a good thing to eat heavy metals, lead, dioxins, etc.


but of course i may be wrong and it may all be because some fish you heard about is killing all the otehr fish. yeah. :|

Ligeia 05-19-2010 11:54 AM

There was a TED talk the other day going over how money is being wasted on subsidies; instead, funnel money into protecting high-risk areas of the ocean to keep them pristine, while regulating the fisheries so that over-fishing is prevented. It will ultimately make the fish industry billions of dollars more per year if they just fish smarter.

Bill Haverchuck 05-20-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 379523)
climate change :facepalm:

Every time I watch Glenn Beck, I get a climate change in my stomach.... :vomit-smiley-020:

Taz 05-20-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 379530)

-we pollute massively. whether this causes warming, cooling or any climate change at all is irrelevant. we are dumping chemicals and garbage into ecosystems at ever-increasing rates. this poisons the animals that live there and the food we eat. this is also supported by huge amounts of scientific data that look at the chemical contents of fish and aquatic plant life.
this can't possibly be good for us. find me one nutritional source that says it is a good thing to eat heavy metals, lead, dioxins, etc.

Have you read "Slow Death by Rubber Duck" by Rick Smith and Bruce Lourie? I highly recommend it ... fascinating and frightening read.

'trane 05-20-2010 11:23 AM

looks fascinating. thanks for the recommendation taz.

LX 05-20-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 379847)
Have you read "Slow Death by Rubber Duck" by Rick Smith and Bruce Lourie? I highly recommend it ... fascinating and frightening read.

I knew Rick Smith fairly well from my days at the University of Guelph. He's a cool guy. I read a piece in Harpers a couple of years ago about rubber ducks, and the general junk in the ocean. I imagine that is where they got their original idea from.

as to thought's comment

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Oh no! The only answer is an extreme paradigm shift changing the way we breathe, eat, work and live.
Considering that our economy was created on the idea that we could take advantage of a "limitless" bounty of resources, and considering that idea is clearly dangerously incorrect, then what option beyond a fairly radical change is going to steer us away from eventual disaster?

And may I make the point that the real extreme paradigm shift took place on the back of that lie of a limitless bounty. Human beings lived within real limits for eons up until that point. Now we are looking at not even accepting the limitations of our own mortality, and that while so much life around us cannot be sustained any longer.

Superjudge 05-20-2010 05:32 PM

:facepalm:

glad im old.

Dark Knight 05-20-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 379990)
:facepalm:

glad im old.

Ah screw you. :p

Superjudge 05-20-2010 05:35 PM

I'm gonna eat all your fish Monsieur Knight!
:dancing:

Dark Knight 05-20-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 379993)
I'm gonna eat all your fish Monsieur Knight!
:dancing:

I guess I better start saving up goldfish...

VanCity 05-20-2010 09:42 PM

does this mean no more canned tuna after 2050?

NOOOOOO!!!! :willy_nilly:

jeffb 05-20-2010 09:47 PM

I'll be 76...

Stonezz 05-21-2010 02:49 PM

Ill be 70


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