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more and more that's becoming horseshit.
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I only said that like in 5 separate posts in this thread lol
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not for everyone it doesn't. the founding principle that all men are created equally is patently false in many scenarios. that they should be considered equal in terms of value is a lofty aspiration worthy of being held up, but they certainly don't all start on equal footing.

and fwiw, i thumbsed-up bill h 2 times in this thread.
I didnt intend to imply that they started on an equal foot, quite the opposite.

Someone born poor has a chance in America...that is untrue in probably 80% of the rest of the world.
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I didnt intend to imply that they started on an equal foot, quite the opposite.

Someone born poor has a chance in America...that is untrue in probably 80% of the rest of the world.
thanks to america's generous 'socialist' welfare state, this is often true.
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thanks to america's generous 'socialist' welfare state, this is often true.
LOL, can't have it both ways.
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Why did the Soviet Union fail and the US is the only world's superpower?
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and fwiw, i thumbsed-up bill h 2 times in this thread.
Only twice?

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It is very easy for us to sit here in your office's/homes...and talk about the great villain America, its systems, its flawed politicians its wars, its scandals.

How does the rest of the world view it, the common folk...

Anyone want to have a look at the worlds immigration numbers?
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Only twice?

I'm thumb-happy right now.

America is awesome. Some of you guys are just haters. I'm not mad though. I learned in this country that everyone is entitled to their opinion and if I disagree with it that i doesn't mean that govt has a right to shot you in your head or put the turtle ban on your account... such as would occur in some other countries
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Why did the Soviet Union fail and the US is the only world's superpower?
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economically: huge decrease in the price of oil and little foreign exchange reserves. borrowed a lot of money when credit rating was high, spent all the money and the economy staled. To get more money they needed to negotiate with western banks...
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economically: huge decrease in the price of oil and little foreign exchange reserves. borrowed a lot of money when credit rating was high, spent all the money and the economy staled. To get more money they needed to negotiate with western banks...
Well, plus they spend 10x more on their military then Russia. Which simply put is assinine.
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For the record, I didn't want to make this about America bashing. I like a lot of Americans. And, for the sake of honesty and humility, Canada has its own problems.
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LOL, can't have it both ways.
i don't know what you are getting at here. my point is that it is not free market capitalism that gives everyone the opportunity, it is the liberal social safety net that makes it possible to take risks. i am arguing that the bits the far-right wants to dismantle are the bits that give them the chance to be risk-taking capitalists.
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Well, plus they spend 10x more on their military then Russia. Which simply put is assinine.
% of GDP military spending

U.S. 4.7%... (43% of world share)
Russia 4.2%
Saudi 11.2%
Canada 1.5%
France 2.5%
UK 2.7%
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% of GDP military spending

U.S. 4.7%... (43% of world share)
Russia 4.2%
Saudi 11.2%
Canada 1.5%
France 2.5%
UK 2.7%
I think he was talking about USSR vs Russia of today.
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I'm thumb-happy right now.

America is awesome. Some of you guys are just haters. I'm not mad though. I learned in this country that everyone is entitled to their opinion and if I disagree with it that i doesn't mean that govt has a right to shot you in your head or put the turtle ban on your account... such as would occur in some other countries
This place is not a democracy..if you got the turtle ban....you deserved it.
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Def isn't a democracy here... supporting an injured Linas Kleiza is tyrannical!
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I think he was talking about USSR vs Russia of today.
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Since the mid-1980s, the Soviet Union devoted between 15 and 17 percent of its annual gross national product to military spending
so... 3-4x less
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i don't know what you are getting at here. my point is that it is not free market capitalism that gives everyone the opportunity, it is the liberal social safety net that makes it possible to take risks. i am arguing that the bits the far-right wants to dismantle are the bits that give them the chance to be risk-taking capitalists.
'Trane, where does the money come from? Where will the money continue to come from?

Why are we trying to make everyone mediocre? Lets raise the bar, more for everyone.

I am not against welfare, social programs, the arts etc... they should be funded in part by my money, but the more you take from me the less I have.

Should I have less? I pay half my income to the government, I would be better off making less money, I am serious.

It seems backwards to me, I would prefer to enable. If they let me have my money, I would have bought a bigger house, and paid more property tax...

As a side bar (double property tax in this city is nute...I paid 20k in property tax on my new place)
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