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Old 07-23-2008, 05:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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how much time have you spent in Japan????

Have you not seen Karate Kid II??????

Respect my ass!
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Im not going to enter this discussion but I dont like the way people respect japanese culture. It has become a fad. They dont have any respect for the individual, they are machist, and have some serious identity problems.

BTW I also LOVE asian women

Identity problems sure I can see that, being stuck on a small island with that many other people but comeon man, there culture is anything from a fad. I have been and worked there and it is a totally different way of life.

Nothing wrong with taking off your shoes when you enter someones house.
Nothing wrong with bowing in respect when you meet someone.

As far as being masochistic, they are reaching the sexual freedom that this continent has yet to reach. Not all Japanese run around tied up all day, just like not all NA were latex. Comone, you cant take what you watch on sexTV as hardened fat of all Japaneses people.
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I would not Bone an MMA fighter, no fucking way, not even a Japanese one.

Does that make me BArbaric, or just masochistic????
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I was one of those big fans of japanese culture. One of my best friends, also drummer of my band is japanese. Myu brother did Kendo for some years.
I still like a lot of things of their culture. But I find funny how people portrait them as a respectful culture. They are what it should be called passive disrespectful people.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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how much time have you spent in Japan????

Have you not seen Karate Kid II??????

Respect my ass!
I havent seen you ass so I cannot respect it!

Seriously though,

Ive been there, worked there for 3 years 6 months a year.

There is a HELL of a lot more respect there than there is here.

People here feel the world owes them something as opposed to them oweing the world.

People in Japan strive together for the betterment of Japan as opposed to all the different faction in ur great country trying to pull it in all different directions.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:42 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I was one of those big fans of japanese culture. One of my best friends, also drummer of my band is japanese. Myu brother did Kendo for some years.
I still like a lot of things of their culture. But I find funny how people portrait them as a respectful culture. They are what it should be called passive disrespectful people.
Now it is a bit more with the massive influx of western society however they are still leaps and bounds ahead of our country in that aspect.

I used to hate how when walking up the street people would look in the air, that way if theyy ran into you they wouldnt be responsible or held at fault. But those same people would sit you down with them to share a drink at the Karaoke bar that same night. Everyone I evermet there was very cool and super nice and would do anything for you if you needed it.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Back to the topic of MMA.

I am a huge fan of it, have been for years. I could write a novel on this subject, but I will decline and just keep it at that. I enjoy it alot
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:21 AM   #28 (permalink)
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As a practitioner (SP) of Brasilian Ju-Jitsu (only a couple years in 2 it and by no means anywhere close to the calibre of full time pro's) i have to say alot of what ppl are saying here is untrue.

MMA is truely a game of chess using your body and mind, if you think some brain dead street thug can rise to the top on toughness alone with no brains, you are so far from correct its not worth argueing... ppl always say "Kimbo", Kimbo has fought nobody and once he fights a heavyweight that will outthink him aswell as having more skill then him, he will be KO'd or tapped out fast.

90% of fighters have the upmost respect for eachother out of the ring, and would not want to seriously injure someone, let alone kill them, so to say they are willing to fight to the death is simply untrue. Martial arts teach discipline and respect. I know in some cases some athletes dont show this, but by and large most do.

I have my 6 year old son enrolled in MMA classes, and since then the change in his respect and discipline level in everyday activitys has increased enormously, and its a healthy activity for him to gain self respect and confidence for later in life for whatever vocation he chooses.

Bruce Lee is really the Godfather of MMA, if you read his book he predicts the rise of the sport. I dont find him barbaric or stupid either.
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As a practitioner (SP) of Brasilian Ju-Jitsu (only a couple years in 2 it and by no means anywhere close to the calibre of full time pro's) i have to say alot of what ppl are saying here is untrue.

MMA is truely a game of chess using your body and mind, if you think some brain dead street thug can rise to the top on toughness alone with no brains, you are so far from correct its not worth argueing... ppl always say "Kimbo", Kimbo has fought nobody and once he fights a heavyweight that will outthink him aswell as having more skill then him, he will be KO'd or tapped out fast.

90% of fighters have the upmost respect for eachother out of the ring, and would not want to seriously injure someone, let alone kill them, so to say they are willing to fight to the death is simply untrue. Martial arts teach discipline and respect. I know in some cases some athletes dont show this, but by and large most do.

I have my 6 year old son enrolled in MMA classes, and since then the change in his respect and discipline level in everyday activitys has increased enormously, and its a healthy activity for him to gain self respect and confidence for later in life for whatever vocation he chooses.

Bruce Lee is really the Godfather of MMA, if you read his book he predicts the rise of the sport. I dont find him barbaric or stupid either.

Well said. Frank Mir would make Kimbo tap in like 2 mins flat. HEnzo tapped Tank. Its all mind over phisicality.
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I would not Bone an MMA fighter, no fucking way, not even a Japanese one.

Does that make me BArbaric, or just masochistic????
Gina Carano?

I'd be all over her given the opportunity.

And I love watching MMA. My wife hates it though.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Gina Carano?

I'd be all over her given the opportunity.
She's freakin' gorgeous! *high 5's malt*
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 11-27-2008, 07:10 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm curious as to what some individuals have to say about this sport. Firstly, is it a sport? Is the vicious beating of an individual something that we should applaud? Is this simply another form of spectacle on par with the Roman Gladiators or is this something else entirely?

Personally, my opinion on the event has changed to the point where I feel that it demonstrates how far our cultural values have fallen. No longer do we simply value great minds, however, we value muscles, brawn, brutality, strength and blood. Possibly, this can explain why so few read books.

So, if you find it interesting....please share me some thoughts.
How did Sauce & I miss this thread? lol.... well better late than never.

I've been an avid UFC (and Pride before they were bought out) watcher since UFC 2 way back when.

I respect your opinion on the subject "C", but I have to say that I disagree with you. MMA may LOOK like "gladitorial combat" and may have been originally sold to the masses as such but it's anything but brutal and (IMHO) is one of the most respectable sports out there. Where else will you see 2 men beat on each other for 20 minutes and then embrace and share congrats afterwards? The RESPECT that most of the fighters have for one another is something that you rarely see nowadays in pro sports.

You can point to guys like Kimbo Slice (who was more of an internet-created media sensation than anything else) but remember that he was only a flash in the pan in the history of MMA. If you take a look at guys who have dominated the sport (Couture, Liddell, Gracie, Griffin, GSP) you'll actually find that almost all of them are very well-spoken, educated NICE guys who love their wives and their kids and don't carry themselves like "thugs".

The UFC has also done a very good job over the past 15 years of "cleaning up it's act" to the point where they CAN be sanctioned now nearly everywhere. That's why you see judges now... and rounds... and weight classes.... and a lot of other prohibitive rules that emphasize fighter safety. The organization CARES about the fighters and their well-being... they aren't just being thrown into a blood-soaked pit to see who comes out alive.

I've dabbled in Jiu-jitsu and kick-boxing and I find both exhilirating. I'm seriously considering getting BACK into Jiu-jitsu again because I miss it so much. And this is coming from one of the most peaceful guys that you'll ever meet. I've never raised a fist in anger in my life.

Like ALL sports you're going to have your share of people who get into for all the wrong reasons but it's a bit unfair to condemn MMA because of a few bad apples.

As for MMA "demonstrating how far our cultural values have fallen"..... c'mon. I KNOW that you're far too educated to really believe that. Blaming MMA for society's ills is akin to blaming rap music for teenage violence. I'd argue that a lack of proper parenting will always be the BIGGEST cause for problems that arise in our youth.

MMA is a sport with set rules, regulations and strategies. It's no different than any other contact sport... except that fighters are more PREPARED for physical contact than any other athlete.

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