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Old 05-25-2010, 04:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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there's no reason that they shouldn't have milk pumped when they're going out to restaurants. when i was working in the falls, it happened quite often without the use of a cape. it's great that they can be so open to the public with their milky boobies, but across from them there's going to be an uncomfortable family eating dinner with adolescent staring or afraid to look up from their plates. in a perfect world, yes there should be no problem anywhere or anytime, but it's not.
my wife breast feeds in public all the time, without a cape. we have never had anyone or any restaurant have a problem with that. it's completely natural, and there are lots of problems with pumped breast milk, the primary one being that it doesn't last for more than a couple of hours unrefrigerated.

i would advise the parents of the confused teen at another table to take this opportunity to teach that kid something about the realities of families and the importance of breast milk.

the opoprtunities for a young family to get out to a restaurant are so infrequent to begin with, it would be ridiculous, in my opinion, to curtail that because some teenager of puritan parents can't tell the difference between a boob as a sexual organ and a boob as a utilitarian one.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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thats cool and all, but the fact of the matter is that it does make people uncomfortable no matter how natural it is. i had to take over peoples tables because they weren't comfortable serving feeding mothers. i've had tables complain about feeding mothers in plain sight. it doesn't make them assholes, immature or ignorant, it's just not something they're either used to seeing or something they don't want to see while eating dinner. again, there's no reason a breast pump can't be used to avoid this situation.
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thats cool and all, but the fact of the matter is that it does make people uncomfortable no matter how natural it is. i had to take over peoples tables because they weren't comfortable serving feeding mothers. i've had tables complain about feeding mothers in plain sight. it doesn't make them assholes, immature or ignorant, it's just not something they're either used to seeing or something they don't want to see while eating dinner. again, there's no reason a breast pump can't be used to avoid this situation.
On the contrary, I think it almost certainly makes them at least one of those three.

Just had this discussion with a friend who couldn't explain why they didn't like it, other than "It's just not right."

Sometimes I wonder how people have the energy to be so concerned about such petty things.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:48 PM   #24 (permalink)
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thats cool and all, but the fact of the matter is that it does make people uncomfortable no matter how natural it is. i had to take over peoples tables because they weren't comfortable serving feeding mothers. i've had tables complain about feeding mothers in plain sight. it doesn't make them assholes, immature or ignorant, it's just not something they're either used to seeing or something they don't want to see while eating dinner. again, there's no reason a breast pump can't be used to avoid this situation.

why should a mother, doing something both biologically natural and biologically necessary, and that doesn't harm anyone, have to change her needs to accomodate someone that feels uncomfortable even though they aren't being effected in any significant way?

should my wife have to lug around a breast pump everywhere she goes and excuse herself from her meal, needing someone else to mind the kid, while she goes into the bathroom to pump? really? just because someone is a tad squeamish? sorry man, but that seems totally ludicrous to me.
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this shall be voted on in the next election, yay or nay on proposition titty
private facilities can make up there own rules
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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this shall be voted on in the next election, yay or nay on proposition titty
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it is already allowed anywhere. no vote needed.

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Old 05-25-2010, 05:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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the people have spoken then, or the goverment, who look after the well being of the people
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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According to the "what would you do" episode on ABC, breastfeeding in public is legal in quite a few American states. That is, a store owner does not have the right to remove a customer due to her breastfeeding a child. But, as I said, the responses of people put in real life situations were mixed. Apparently some people still have a problem with "Milk and Boobies."
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Old 05-25-2010, 07:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Why are people making a mountain out of mole hill? I go out to restaurants on a regular basis and have never ever come across a woman breastfeeding her baby in one and I really wouldn't have a problem if it did happen.
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Old 05-25-2010, 07:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Considering we live in a city where it's legal for women to go topless, why would all that many people around here have an issue with it. Obviously this is different, but serioulsy who cares.
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why should a mother, doing something both biologically natural and biologically necessary, and that doesn't harm anyone, have to change her needs to accomodate someone that feels uncomfortable even though they aren't being effected in any significant way?

should my wife have to lug around a breast pump everywhere she goes and excuse herself from her meal, needing someone else to mind the kid, while she goes into the bathroom to pump? really? just because someone is a tad squeamish? sorry man, but that seems totally ludicrous to me.

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On the contrary, I think it almost certainly makes them at least one of those three.

Just had this discussion with a friend who couldn't explain why they didn't like it, other than "It's just not right."

Sometimes I wonder how people have the energy to be so concerned about such petty things.
i have friends that use/used a breast pump. you don't have to bring it with you. you fill it before you leave your house. i've heated countless bottles of milk while i was working in restaurants. regardless, my previous comments were made to the women not using a cape in a restaurant. you can say it's educative, you can call the uncomfortable insensitive, but there's definitely a lack of concern from those feeding mothers of the other guests in the restaurant. i've seen it from the other-side.
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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again, breast milk is only good for 2 hours unrefrigerated. if you are out for any length of time besides a quick dinner you can't just carry a bottle around with you. also, some women don't produce enough milk for a bottle, the kid needs to work at it.

and i couldn't care less about a bunch of puritanical eaters that can't handle the sight of a boob. it's ridiculous.
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:27 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I actually couldn't care less about a lack of concern from those feeding mothers towards other guests in restaurants when there are so many rude asshats who won't give up their seats on the TTC or in the ER waiting room to obviously pregnant women. That's what the uproar should be about.

Whatever. If and when my husband and I have children, I'm not going to lug around a breast pump and a bag and bottles ... when my child is hungry, my child will get fed out of the boobie.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:35 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Some thing make people uncomfortable, and unfortunately for those people, they have to try and get over it.

Now what if the child being breast fed is three years old. Natural, unnatural?

If he's screaming for a little topper-upper after he finished his grill cheese, should the mother comply?
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and i couldn't care less about a bunch of puritanical eaters that can't handle the sight of a boob. it's ridiculous.
at what harm would there be in using a cape?

you're thinking husband/father/naturalist, i'm thinking business.
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the harm would be in compelling a woman to cover herself up. at the very least that's an individual rights issue that has no place in a liberal democracy.

i think business should take a backseat to families every time, and while a restaurant owner may not agree, there is really no basis in law that would allow him to prevent it. so if you think that business should not take a back seat to families, that's all well and good, but it sure does need to take a back seat to law.

naturalist? i'm not talking a nudist camp here, i'm talking about breastfeeding. it's discreet and only takes a few minutes. give me a break...
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:44 PM   #39 (permalink)
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what if the mother was a teenager? still ok? or am i going in a different direction?
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i don't see what difference the age of the mother would make. this has nothing to do with sexuality.
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