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Old 08-27-2011, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It just started raining here in New York. The winds will start picking up after midnight, climaxing around 11:00am Sunday at ~70 mph (Category 1/Tropical Storm). Parts of Long Island are being evacuated, mainly on the southshore, but also on the northshore. I live about a mile from the Long Island Sound on the northshore but my area should be safe. I'm unsure about the details about Toronto.

Mayor Bloomberg ordered mandatory evacuations in parts of NYC, mainly around the downtown.

There seems to be too much paranoia, but I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. Going to Coscto, Lowes or Home Depot is a nightmare. Even supermarket shelves are somewhat empty. There was actually no water whatsoever in the store yesterday. Here is the most extreme scenario: Hurricane models prepare New Yorkers for worst-case storm scenarios – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Stay safe to you and all those that will be affected by Hurricane Irene.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Apparently some people who are in evacuation areas are refusing to leave there homes. If the wind exceeds 60mph all bridges will be shut down.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Apparently some people who are in evacuation areas are refusing to leave there homes. If the wind exceeds 60mph all bridges will be shut down.
Yes the bridges in NYC will close if above 60 mph. For the good news, NO TOLLS even when their open. NYC people also don't have to worry about paying street parking meters.

The trains to Long Island are no longer operating and even the NYC subway system will supposedly stop running at some point (unsure if all lines). The people in evacuation areas have until 5pm (there are ferries in areas). The people who own homes on/nearby the water had to evacuate from my town too.

There was a funny story on the news how surfers were on the southshore. Supposedly there were lifeguards and they let them surf. They're not allowing any other swimmers though.

Also Irene claimed one life already in North Carolina where a 47 year old man was hit with a tree limb from the wind

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Old 08-27-2011, 02:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There was a surfer that died.
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Some NY Times guy's twitter:



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Category 1 storms usually cause no significant structural damage to building structures; however, they can topple unanchored mobile homes, as well as uproot or snap trees. Poorly attached roof shingles or tiles can blow off. Coastal flooding and pier damage are often associated with Category 1 storms. Power outages are typically widespread to extensive, sometimes lasting several days. Even though it is the least intense type of hurricane, the storm can still produce plenty of widespread damage and can be a life-threatening storm

74–95 mph
119–153 km/h



Well the rain is here but the wind is fine.

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Old 08-28-2011, 05:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well it's impossible to sleep with these winds and the peak is still 5 hours away (10am EST). A few massive trees have already cracked. Sh!t is getting real...
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I know you're there, but i was on the phone with my buddy in Huntington and he's thoroughly pissed off telling me that this is typical US media fear mongering. He and his family are fine.

Can we really blame a storm for killing two surfers? or can we blame surfing for killing two surfers. And some idiot that went swimming out in the surf in Florida? A guy that had a heart attack doing work in his yard?

This sort of fear peddling if you were to ask me, is insulting to area's actually ravaged by real natural disasters. Not because of the heads up it gives folks, I don't think playing it safe is a bad thing. But when the main goal is commerce.... selling ads, boosting the retail economy on the east coast..... I get a bit angry.

Stay safe cubed.... and thanks for the reports man.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It was def exaggerated. The winds were really intense and scary in the middle of the night but the media did overplay it... when I posted at 5am it was bad but didn't get much worse. At least consumers contributed to the economy tho.

Huntington is about 15 minutes from me (I'm in the Oyster Bay area). The only bad thing is that I'm within one mile of the Long Island sound and people half a mile were evacuated. I was always more concerned about flooding or trees falling... mainly property damage instead of fatalities. And there has been a lot of flooding and the roads are closed due to debris, but otherwise it wasn't a big deal. I only lost power momentarily although a lot of people didn't have it all night.

There was def an element of fear mongering but that is the US media... to make a story. Parts of the southshore and the Hamptons were badly flooded but that's expected. There's some flooding in my town too but everything is really calm now. I also have no sympathy for surfers who were killed... their putting the lives in danger of those who may have tried to rescue them.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ya thats what my buddy said.... a lot of water and potential for flooding. Oddly they made more of a big deal about your neighbours in Manhattan than they did the poor buggers in Long Island.

Ah well, glad you're safe man!
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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From what I saw, government officials at every level, backed by scientific models, stated the need to take the risk very seriously. And if the eye wall had held up it likely would have meant that winds that were very powerful up high, would have been forced down to ground level. It's pretty unfair to blame the media for what amounts to good fortune. Did the media convince the scientists and government officials of the possible severity, in order to make a story and get ratings? That seems pretty farfetched.
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I thought this storm would uproot the empire state building and throw it on top of Madison Square Garden.
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I thought it was going to blow lady liberty's robes above her head. That would have been hot. I bet she's got a great set of gams.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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LX, the media made it seem like we had another Katrina on hand. Sure it's better to be safe than sorry but the potential consequences were exaggerated. Property damage, power outages should be expected during any storm involving heavy rains. The weather guys dropped the ball on their wind estimates. I'm frustrated because the media made it seem like hundreds of thousands of lives were in serious danger, and not just in coastal areas. Look, this is about tradeoffs... I believe the death toll throughout the US is about a dozen... how many people were injured or killed (e.g. car accidents) in preparation for this thing? There was irrational paranoia.

I think people outside of the effected areas are viewing the most dramatic consequences of the storm. TV is showing the worst scenarios. I was just watching the Weather Channel and the reporter is standing in a flooded area where he is knee deep... during the broadcast there are people walking in the background 20 feet away and the water barely covers their ankles lol.

Residents in certain areas def should've evacuated, including some in lower Manhattan. I'm curious whether others should've bothered waiting x amount of hours to buy many pointless goods beyond food and water. Was the stress warranted? There was unnecessary panic and squandering of resources. I'm not saying it's a sinister conspiracy between business and the media but the story line was ridiculous. I do have the benefit of hindsight though.

The Carolina's hockey team is named the Hurricanes for a reason.

Hurricane Irene was like Lebron James in the 4th quarter. End of story.

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Old 08-28-2011, 10:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah cube, there was no story there. It was a huge storm. Ask the people in the Bahamas. The climatologists knew what they were looking at, and if the eye wall of this thing had held together everything would have been much different. I fail to see where there s a problem to have people prepared, especially when it looks like there will be drawn-out power outages? You've got a huge storm headed right at an extremely densely populated area. The science concludes that any number of scenarios could put a lot of people at risk. What do you suppose would be a better approach to take? It didn't mean that people needed to panic. I didn't see anyone saying it was a desperate situation. The suggestion was that it could be if people did not take precautions.

Don't tell me that because the eye wall didn't hold together, you can conclude in the absence of any scientific knowledge, that this was never anything much to worry about. I'm afraid the irrationality on display comes from you suggesting as much.

As for the coverage of the after-effects where reporters wade into floodwaters, well yeah, that's always ridiculous. Big whoop. Overall, there is going to be an ever increasing number of these situations, and nobody should count on being lucky every time. That is how Katrinas happen, in terms of a disaster becoming entirely unmanageable.

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Old 08-29-2011, 10:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:36 AM   #18 (permalink)
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"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?'"

"Listen to the American people, because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending."


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Old 08-30-2011, 11:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
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the lunatic fringe continues to occupy a stunning chunk of the political centre.
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Since so much damage has been in small towns, I'm thinking God hates the rural folk. Either that, or he was a little off with his aim while responding to Rick Perry's pleas for rain.
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