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Old 04-13-2013, 12:33 PM   #1021 (permalink)
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Ya you're right, I'm sorry for not basing all of my values purely on the country I was born in. Opps, I said sorry, guess I have to be Canadian.

Your opinion of not wanting a Casino in downtown doesn't make you any more Canadian than anyone that does want it there.
As to your bottom phrase you're right. It doesn't. I just fear the casino will slowly lead to further Americanization. If we can have the casino and not have that happen then I'm all for it but I don't think that's possible. Hence my view.

Oh and sorry if the post came off as insulting. I was out of line
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:13 PM   #1022 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:09 PM   #1023 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:42 PM   #1024 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:45 PM   #1025 (permalink)
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good find.

I often talk about homophobic language used on this very forum that people tell me isn't. Thing is, it is, and just because people don't know they are offending people, doesn't make it any less offensive.

Awareness is getting better though.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:44 PM   #1026 (permalink)
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Justin Trudeau wins Liberal leadership with 80% support - Politics - CBC News


so justin wins. congrats to him. I think he will stop a conservative or even worse NDP majority in the next election.

but I didnt want him to become leader. because I know he wont win. and the loss will tarnish his record. I dont think he or the party is ready to win. I wanted anyone to win but him. actually I wanted bob rae to win it, but that wish went down the gutter.

oh well, heres to a canada without a harper or mulclair majority at least. ridiculous bills wont be passed to a certain degree
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:25 PM   #1027 (permalink)
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Well it's good to see you've got that so well reasoned out. Clearly there is no way Justin could ever do anything ridiculous.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:48 PM   #1028 (permalink)
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did I ever say that? he can be, but today is not that day. nor will it be in 2 years
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:07 PM   #1029 (permalink)
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Oh, ok, he will just be able to mitigate the ridiculousness of Harper, or worse, Mulcair, because enough people will be convinced of his inability to be ridiculous that a minority ruling party will result, and the party with no ideas since the last Trudeau will be happy to see all ideas stifled for as long as possible. Hooray.
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Oh, ok, he will just be able to mitigate the ridiculousness of Harper, or worse, Mulcair, because enough people will be convinced of his inability to be ridiculous that a minority ruling party will result, and the party with no ideas since the last Trudeau will be happy to see all ideas stifled for as long as possible. Hooray.
I take it you're not a liberal?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:24 PM   #1031 (permalink)
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I take it you're not a liberal?
Hey. I might be. I'll have to see what celebrity candidate they can parachute into my riding. But I don't think I'll ever be able to muster the blindly buying-in to the fear of what the other parties will do.
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Hey. I might be. I'll have to see what celebrity candidate they can parachute into my riding. But I don't think I'll ever be able to muster the blindly buying-in to the fear of what the other parties will do.
canadas reputation on the world stage was better pre harper, when the liberals were running the show. now we are known as opportunists who dont give two shits about the environment, and rightly so.

canada was in a better financial state pre harper, ignoring the financial meltdown (i.e a golden financial age for the world before the crisis which harper if im not mistake had 2 years a part of) again due to the liberals

do you want any other examples? it is easy to discount them without providing any evidence
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #1033 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:00 PM   #1034 (permalink)
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if you dont ignore it it strengthens my case so.. I dont know what youre getting at?
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:11 PM   #1035 (permalink)
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canadas reputation on the world stage was better pre harper, when the liberals were running the show. now we are known as opportunists who dont give two shits about the environment, and rightly so.

canada was in a better financial state pre harper, ignoring the financial meltdown (i.e a golden financial age for the world before the crisis which harper if im not mistake had 2 years a part of) again due to the liberals

do you want any other examples? it is easy to discount them without providing any evidence
So the NDP is going to make Canada's reputation even worse?

And don't tell me about the financial state. The Libs were no better than the Cons when it came to spending almost exclusively in their own ridings and letting corporate entities run the show. They took Toronto for granted for a decade and offered no means of coping with costs that they downloaded here. They co-opted reform policies throughout the Chrétien years, and failed to stand up to a minority Conservative party, all the while yelling with hair on fire about how Tories would have tanks patrolling our streets. Can anything get more ridiculous or pathetic than that? How about delivering an essential message to Canadians through a blurry home movie, or clenching a fist and shouting with fake passion? What is the last thing that the party as a whole believed in, and don't say the Red Book.

Now I could fill pages concerning my disgust with Harper, although I would have to point out that they have offered stability and tackled some tough issues on their own initiative, or in other words, that they have shown they are capable of governing and hemming in their extremes to some degree. I think its possible to see that they could be much worse. What I don't get is how anyone can say the NDP would be much worse, without offering anything but fear mongering, and at the same time wishing Bob Rae could be the leader of their party.
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So the NDP is going to make Canada's reputation even worse?

And don't tell me about the financial state. The Libs were no better than the Cons when it came to spending almost exclusively in their own ridings and letting corporate entities run the show. They took Toronto for granted for a decade and offered no means of coping with costs that they downloaded here. They co-opted reform policies throughout the Chrétien years, and failed to stand up to a minority Conservative party, all the while yelling with hair on fire about how Tories would have tanks patrolling our streets. Can anything get more ridiculous or pathetic than that? How about delivering an essential message to Canadians through a blurry home movie, or clenching a fist and shouting with fake passion? What is the last thing that the party as a whole believed in, and don't say the Red Book.

Now I could fill pages concerning my disgust with Harper, although I would have to point out that they have offered stability and tackled some tough issues on their own initiative, or in other words, that they have shown they are capable of governing and hemming in their extremes to some degree. I think its possible to see that they could be much worse. What I don't get is how anyone can say the NDP would be much worse, without offering anything but fear mongering, and at the same time wishing Bob Rae could be the leader of their party.
I'll respond to the rest of the post at a later date when I can come up with specific facts to back myself up. as for Bob rae, I wished for him to be the leader because I know that no matter who leads the liberals will not win the elcetion coming up. party support is still low (although it has raised with the emergence of trudeau). The party needs to rebuild itself, and in that phase there will be a loss. I dont want our seemingly best leader to end up tarnishing himself in the public eye simply because the party didn't have a better option at their disposal right now.

as for the NDP, economically this country would take a deep dark plunge. I fear for the day that the NDP are voted into power. as well, their energy demands while may sound nice are not sustainable. their views towards nuclear power is absurd, and that party can only lead to trouble.
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Deep dark plunge. Hilarious. And so Liberal.

Enjoy the rebuilding, especially considering that the foundation has all but crumbled. Anti-democratic personality politics with an endless bent towards fear mongering - that's a great alternative.
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Deep dark plunge. Hilarious. And so Liberal.

Enjoy the rebuilding, especially considering that the foundation has all but crumbled. Anti-democratic personality politics with an endless bent towards fear mongering - that's a great alternative.
it's sad that this is what our image has been reduced to in part by our own downfalls and in part by harper's multiple million+ costing smear campaigns against their real opposition the liberals.

the NDP would have our economy crash and burn to pennies within 2 fiscal periods. and thats in the case of a good global economic climate.

I fear for the day NDP win the election, and even more so if they ever win a majority
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By SAMIR NAJI al HASAN MOQBEL
Published: April 14, 2013

GUANTÁNAMO BAY, Cuba

ONE man here weighs just 77 pounds. Another, 98. Last thing I knew, I weighed 132, but that was a month ago.

I’ve been on a hunger strike since Feb. 10 and have lost well over 30 pounds. I will not eat until they restore my dignity.

I’ve been detained at Guantánamo for 11 years and three months. I have never been charged with any crime. I have never received a trial.

I could have been home years ago — no one seriously thinks I am a threat — but still I am here. Years ago the military said I was a “guard” for Osama bin Laden, but this was nonsense, like something out of the American movies I used to watch. They don’t even seem to believe it anymore. But they don’t seem to care how long I sit here, either.

When I was at home in Yemen, in 2000, a childhood friend told me that in Afghanistan I could do better than the $50 a month I earned in a factory, and support my family. I’d never really traveled, and knew nothing about Afghanistan, but I gave it a try.

I was wrong to trust him. There was no work. I wanted to leave, but had no money to fly home. After the American invasion in 2001, I fled to Pakistan like everyone else. The Pakistanis arrested me when I asked to see someone from the Yemeni Embassy. I was then sent to Kandahar, and put on the first plane to Gitmo.

Last month, on March 15, I was sick in the prison hospital and refused to be fed. A team from the E.R.F. (Extreme Reaction Force), a squad of eight military police officers in riot gear, burst in. They tied my hands and feet to the bed. They forcibly inserted an IV into my hand. I spent 26 hours in this state, tied to the bed. During this time I was not permitted to go to the toilet. They inserted a catheter, which was painful, degrading and unnecessary. I was not even permitted to pray.

I will never forget the first time they passed the feeding tube up my nose. I can’t describe how painful it is to be force-fed this way. As it was thrust in, it made me feel like throwing up. I wanted to vomit, but I couldn’t. There was agony in my chest, throat and stomach. I had never experienced such pain before. I would not wish this cruel punishment upon anyone.

I am still being force-fed. Two times a day they tie me to a chair in my cell. My arms, legs and head are strapped down. I never know when they will come. Sometimes they come during the night, as late as 11 p.m., when I’m sleeping.

There are so many of us on hunger strike now that there aren’t enough qualified medical staff members to carry out the force-feedings; nothing is happening at regular intervals. They are feeding people around the clock just to keep up.

During one force-feeding the nurse pushed the tube about 18 inches into my stomach, hurting me more than usual, because she was doing things so hastily. I called the interpreter to ask the doctor if the procedure was being done correctly or not.

It was so painful that I begged them to stop feeding me. The nurse refused to stop feeding me. As they were finishing, some of the “food” spilled on my clothes. I asked them to change my clothes, but the guard refused to allow me to hold on to this last shred of my dignity.

When they come to force me into the chair, if I refuse to be tied up, they call the E.R.F. team. So I have a choice. Either I can exercise my right to protest my detention, and be beaten up, or I can submit to painful force-feeding.

The only reason I am still here is that President Obama refuses to send any detainees back to Yemen. This makes no sense. I am a human being, not a passport, and I deserve to be treated like one.

I do not want to die here, but until President Obama and Yemen’s president do something, that is what I risk every day.

Where is my government? I will submit to any “security measures” they want in order to go home, even though they are totally unnecessary.

I will agree to whatever it takes in order to be free. I am now 35. All I want is to see my family again and to start a family of my own.

The situation is desperate now. All of the detainees here are suffering deeply. At least 40 people here are on a hunger strike. People are fainting with exhaustion every day. I have vomited blood.

And there is no end in sight to our imprisonment. Denying ourselves food and risking death every day is the choice we have made.

I just hope that because of the pain we are suffering, the eyes of the world will once again look to Guantánamo before it is too late.

Samir Naji al Hasan Moqbel, a prisoner at Guantánamo Bay since 2002, told this story, through an Arabic interpreter, to his lawyers at the legal charity Reprieve in an unclassified telephone call.
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