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Old 09-02-2008, 06:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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or perhaps you could get out of the podium forum, which is exactly for this kind of thing, and move over to say... maybe the nba forum? or perhaps the Raptors forum???

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Old 09-02-2008, 10:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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oh ya, I'm the problem... gladly, I'm gone. Have fun working it all out.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:58 PM   #43 (permalink)
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oh i get it... it's complicated so we shouldn't discuss it here... nice.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:09 AM   #44 (permalink)
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so basically you are saying this people are only worthy of doing dirty jobs. What will happend when they expire to a better life. Will there be resources for 50 million new people leaving in at a middle - high class level?.

Sorry its just not realistic. The solution is solving the situation where they live. Not moving them were they can do our dirty jobs. Suggesting they can choose to live a better live its insane.
There is always availability for work. If people aspire to a better job, then let them apply, if they are qualified it should be given to them. Simple. People need to work and our countries job market is hungry.

The average age of pipe layers in Canada is 62, average age of plumber is 55, electrician is something like 55 as well, our military is one of the smallest in the world. Jobs will create themselves if there are people available to work at them.

Look at the US, 300+ million people and there is no worry of work, Canada has 30+ million and a much larger coutry.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:11 AM   #45 (permalink)
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seriosly, if you think Canada could take 100 million new citizens in a few years I just dont know what to say anymore.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:34 AM   #46 (permalink)
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seriosly, if you think Canada could take 100 million new citizens in a few years I just dont know what to say anymore.
Why do you tink it couldnt.

As long as they work, that would be the requirment.
You want to live here you have to work here. Provide housing at a minimal cost until new immigrants are on there feet and then its all upon themselves.

Canada would loose massive amounts of money the first 5 years but would get it all back in the long run.

It, in my opinion, is a much more viable option than spending money through organizations and feeding governments that want to take the money and keep it for themselves while the people who need the help arent going to get it.

Drilling wells is only going to do so much, once a well is drilled they are going to fight for control of it. It would take decades until enough resources could be produced to actually make the third world countries have something to be able to trade with. And even at that it is very limited with what can be produced.

Cheap labour is the best thing they could provide right now, but because those countries are so ravaged in war, no company would be willing to set up shop there, so to speak.

Only way to fix it, in my eyes, is to either purge the government(much like Iraq etc) or else get people out.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:40 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Snooch, what you're talking about is really an ammended slave program. Give them the crappy jobs no person here wants to do, pay them a poor wage and they should be thankful that we're doing it for them. Do you not see how wrong this is? By all definitions it IS a slave program you're arguing for.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:53 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Snooch, what you're talking about is really an ammended slave program. Give them the crappy jobs no person here wants to do, pay them a poor wage and they should be thankful that we're doing it for them. Do you not see how wrong this is? By all definitions it IS a slave program you're arguing for.
What the fuck!!!

Sorry if I confused, Im not so good at times with putting down thoughts.

Never intended anything about slavery....

Just that I dont imaging that out of the millions of starving peoples all over the world I would doubt that many of them are so well educated and trained that could come over here and qualify to fill these so called "good jobs"

(by the way my family has done these so called "crappy jobs" and my Dad stilll does, its real bullshit to think that people consider them awful jobs, and not want to do them, without people working labour almost everyone here wouldnt have a car to drive, a house to live in, food to eat, no garbage pick up, etc. but I digress, that is a whole other rant.)

And as far as a bad wage do you forget we have a minimum wage in Canada? Free healthcare? Ample amounts of food? Government assistance programs? Education incentives? Clean water? Housing programs? Free society?

I never said that I wouldnt pay them either. The problem is that a majority of Canadians feel that certain things are crappy jobs, but guess what, people need to do them. If labour work dissapears than forget about any advancements of our society.

As far as the cheap labour reference, I meant in their own country. Why do you think that almost all things we purchase in Canada have "made in Thaiwan" or "made in China" stamped on them, because the labour is cheaper over there.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:25 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Canada would loose massive amounts of money the first 5 years but would get it all back in the long run.

Only way to fix it, in my eyes, is to either purge the government(much like Iraq etc) or else get people out.
Think that the first sentence cannot be right if the inmigration volumen it's so big, there are limits.

At the second I only can say that people still die in Iraq. So call me when they begin to buy the first world products (out of the arms, of course).


EDIT: Man, people with studies don't use to need to go to other countries, they use to find job. The problem is all of those that haven't studies.

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Old 09-03-2008, 09:32 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Think that the first sentence cannot be right if the inmigration volumen it's so big, there are limits.

At the second I only can say that people still die in Iraq. So call me when they begin to buy the first world products (out of the arms, of course).


EDIT: Man, people with studies don't use to need to go to other countries, they use to find job. The problem is all of those that haven't studies.
People will always be dying in Iraq, etc. because they connot maintaine a peaceful government. The problem with having rulers is that the rulers need to be just. Doesnt always happen that way......

Yes, agreed on the last part. I'm am just stating a possible solution for those peoples.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:58 AM   #51 (permalink)
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But people weren't dying at that pace before the war. You cannot say "use the war" and not to watch what the war makes to the people. War never is a solution.

The problem is when you have few things, studies go to the last spot on your worries. Think that the solution goes through helps that make possible their lives at their countries when that's possible.
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