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Have to disagree with you, both the egyptians and romans and mayans and azteks all had some sort of sewer, drinking water and arrigation sytems in place in their city structures.

And as far as being dependent on "modern technology" speak for yourself. I dont know about you but I can fish or hunt, clean the animal, start a fire and cook it. I can cut down wood, split and dry it and heat my home/cook my food. I can grow my own vegetables and fruit. I can build my own shelter. "Modern Technology" makes some things easier but life is still built off the sweat of ones back.

And the final difference is the problem I have with it is that people settled into this place to begin with. There is no way to support life adequatley in some of these places because the earth will not allow it.

Lets all go move to Death Valley and start a farming community. Doesnt make sense does it?

In order to feed these people, greenhouses will need to be built to allow for sufficient enough of an evironment to be able to grow food.
Wow. I suggest you go read your history, specifically histories that deal with the birth of cities. London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, New York City etc. all had high death rates due to contamination of the sewer systems with human feces. It's historical fact.

Oh and I can do all of those things as well Snooch. But the fact that the second we're born we're placed in incubators, ensuring our survival shows you that "modern technology" makes things MUCH easier. Consider the fact that while we're at the age of two we're not farming but instead enjoying our youth shows you how easy technology has made all of our lives. We're already starting with a head start. Many people don't receive this luxury.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Have you been to New Brunswick 'trane?
they like flannel, trucks, and country music there
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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your rant sucks. no every country is blessed with an economy as rich as ours. places like indonesia can't afford these luxuries of homes that'll withstand giant fucking tidal waves. there's over 200 million people that live there. where do you suppose they can just all pack up and leave to? did you think before you wrote your rant? or did the words i'm just a big ignorant dink run thru your head as words spilled out onto your computer? here's another one, how many countries have five great lakes that produce a large percentage of the worlds fresh water supply? right. and if we're so smart, how come those lakes are so heavily polluted.

these hurrincans and earthquakes that these people are withstanding in southern states are far worse then the norm. when was the last major quake in cali? the one before that? how many major floods and disasters has florida withstood?
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1. thats the problem, government needs to help, and there is a hell of alot more money there than you think.
2. A little uncalled for.
3.what is it, fresh water producer of heavily polluted? and they are polluted with filth from boats and poor septage disposal. the latter of which is counterbalanced by the soils around tand the cooling of the lakes itself.
4. N.O. is a low lying place, that is what made it bad. On a scale of damage I would have to say that Hurricane Hugo and Andrew both exceeded the NO hurricane.
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yikes snooch. i don't even know what to say...

"walking is a start"... so, if i get you right, a good 1/3 - 1/2, or even more, of the world's population should just get up and walk to the handful of countries that offer a quality standard of living? all at once? across deserts and oceans, without passports or money or educations...?

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ummmmm....
Again, little over anxious with putting my thoughts out here, but why would people ever settle ther in the first place, this is what I dont get, if anyone could tell me why then mabey I can understand.
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I fucking hate country, except for Willie and Cash
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Again, little over anxious with putting my thoughts out here, but why would people ever settle ther in the first place, this is what I dont get, if anyone could tell me why then mabey I can understand.
snooch, in many cases we're talking about thousands of years ago. it's not like they knew about the top 10 travel destinations in conde nast magazine.

this is the slow and accidental process of human evolution of the growth of populations through time. they didn't take a look at a map of the world, weigh the options, and just pick that location. at a point in human history - practically all of it in fact - the only option is to survive of what you got and get through the day.
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Wow. I suggest you go read your history, specifically histories that deal with the birth of cities. London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, New York City etc. all had high death rates due to contamination of the sewer systems with human feces. It's historical fact..
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Oh and I can do all of those things as well Snooch. But the fact that the second we're born we're placed in incubators, ensuring our survival shows you that "modern technology" makes things MUCH easier. Consider the fact that while we're at the age of two we're not farming but instead enjoying our youth shows you how easy technology has made all of our lives. We're already starting with a head start. Many people don't receive this luxury.
Not saying we dont have a leg up either, just I cannot for the life of me understand why places like this were inhabited to begin with... that is my problem with it.

"My great,great,great,great grand-daddy moved into a place with no chance to sustain life and 300 years later we are still here." I know this sounds awful but I just dont understand it. I will continue to help out anyway I can the people over there and the people down south but that doesnt mean I dont understand why the fuck they are in the situation to begin with.

And for all the great responses everyone has made to me, calling me crazy, an asshole etc, no-one has made it clear as to why. Im the only one asking.
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snooch, in many cases we're talking about thousands of years ago. it's not like they knew about the top 10 travel destinations in conde nast magazine.

this is the slow and accidental process of human evolution of the growth of populations through time. they didn't take a look at a map of the world, weigh the options, and just pick that location. at a point in human history - practically all of it in fact - the only option is to survive of what you got and get through the day.
First post to atttempt to explain it to me, thank you Trane.
Makes great sense to, but if the inuit can find away to survive in absolute horrendous environments why didnt it work out better for them?

For people who belive in creation as opposed to evolution do they find themselves asking why they stopped at these places instead of carryiong on someplace else when Babel first broke up?

For evolutionists, how have they survived this long?
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creationism is ludicrous. sorry man, that's my opinion and all, but i can't engage in a conversation where that isn't a foundational principle.
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creationism is ludicrous. sorry man, that's my opinion and all, but i can't engage in a conversation where that isn't a foundational principle.
Not saying it is, just asking the question.

What do you think of the second one?
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inuit? they had a harsh climate, but nearly limitless fresh water and plenty of food to eat. not to mention a population that was small enough not to be a strain of the local resources.
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inuit? they had a harsh climate, but nearly limitless fresh water and plenty of food to eat. not to mention a population that was small enough not to be a strain of the local resources.
Exactly, why would the Inuit settle in a place with ample amounts of fish/water but the peoples of Africa not do the same. There are without a doubt land that can house a large number of people in Africa, why did people choose to settle in an area that isnt condusive to it?
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wow man. i think you're oversimplifying things quite a bit. as is said, human history is accidental most of the time. there was no centralized plan for population development.
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wow man. i think you're oversimplifying things quite a bit. as is said, human history is accidental most of the time. there was no centralized plan for population development.
So you think that their situation is just a series of rather unfortunate events that led to the situation that they are in now? I guess I can live with that as a reason why.

Again it isnt that I dont feel bad for them, or my heart doesnt break every time I hear of a childs suffering anywhere in the world, it is just very confusiong to me as to how it come to be this way.
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so would you agree that 100 million starving people went to live to canada right now?
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so would you agree that 100 million starving people went to live to canada right now?
Man, if it were possible, I would bring them in, just so long as they worked. That would be the only requirement, Work, work, work.
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you think it is plausible to give jobs to 100 million people? do you think an econimy could sustain 100 million new people uneducated and hungry? Do you think there are sufficent resources (without completelly destroying the country) in canada to sustain them?

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you think it is plausible to give jobs to 100 million people?
Sure, streets need sweeping, buildings need cleaned, labour is needed all over the country. No one over here wants to do labour work anymore.

Edit: thats why it costs so much to get anything done.....
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so basically you are saying this people are only worthy of doing dirty jobs. What will happend when they expire to a better life. Will there be resources for 50 million new people leaving in at a middle - high class level?.

Sorry its just not realistic. The solution is solving the situation where they live. Not moving them were they can do our dirty jobs. Suggesting they can choose to live a better live its insane.

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Same dudes that like to say this stuff are the first to tell immigrants to fuck the hell off BACK to the coiuntries they came from when they DO look for a better way of life via our immigration laws and refugee status oppotunities.

This threadf neds to be deleted, in fact most politically feuled, or sociological threads in this place are a fucking disgrace, and thats me being nice.

Any fuckjob can recognise good pick and roll defence, however, the shit were talking here, well, it simply is beyond the grasp of many of our little community.

Why don't we all shut the fuck up and stick to Basketball, if you need to talk about this other stuff, there are about 10000 other forums designed exactly for that.
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