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I know im probably in a severe minority, but i like George Walker Bush, not his politics, i just like his personality and his demeanor. He obviously isnt the sharpest knife in the shed, but he doesnt ever claim to be that smart. He loved to drink, do coke, party and skim by in life, and he became the President Of The United States somehow, i mean, obv his family connections helped him out, but i still find this astounding!! I also dont think George is a bad guy, i think he really believed the info he was told by ppl he trusted, and went with what he thought were the right decisions, he isnt well versed enough in world politics to make an informed decision himself. History will probably look down upon him, but i will kind of miss his Bushisms, his country charm and his goofy smile. He looked as relieved to be leaving the White House as the Obama's seemed happy to go in. I really think he is a simple country guy and wants to go back to his ranch and shoot at random things and talk sports for the rest of his life, im down with that Take care George, you still have a few fans :P
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comedians are going to have to come up with jokes now, Bush gave so much good material.

Oh well at least Clinton is in the cabinet. Were going to start hearing Bill/Hillary Clinton jokes like the 90's
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I know im probably in a severe minority, but i like George Walker Bush, not his politics, i just like his personality and his demeanor. He obviously isnt the sharpest knife in the shed, but he doesnt ever claim to be that smart. He loved to drink, do coke, party and skim by in life, and he became the President Of The United States somehow, i mean, obv his family connections helped him out, but i still find this astounding!! I also dont think George is a bad guy, i think he really believed the info he was told by ppl he trusted, and went with what he thought were the right decisions, he isnt well versed enough in world politics to make an informed decision himself. History will probably look down upon him, but i will kind of miss his Bushisms, his country charm and his goofy smile. He looked as relieved to be leaving the White House as the Obama's seemed happy to go in. I really think he is a simple country guy and wants to go back to his ranch and shoot at random things and talk sports for the rest of his life, im down with that Take care George, you still have a few fans :P
the whole country texan cowboy thing is an act, and a good one at that. while he did serve as governor of texas for 5 years, and he spent a good portion of his life there, bush is from the northeast - new haven connecticut, to be exact. and he was 'educated' at yale and harvard. his a rich-boy northeasterner through and through. the cowboy image was developed late in life. after his time in the national guard/air force reserves (ending in in 1974, followed by about 4 years of what i think was inactivity, but i'm not sure) he then took a run at the texas house of reps in 1978, where he lost and was accused of being out of touch with rural texas and the locals. between then and 1994 he bounced around between the oil business, the texas rangers and daddy's campaign, before remodeling himself as a cowboy and running for the governorship of texas. the thing about that run that is amazing, by the way, is that he beat the hugely popular ann richards by a) basically accusing her of having ties to lesbians, and b) sponsoring a law to allow concealed weapons. this is the first stage of his official political cowboy transformation.

so he can go back to his ranch and shoot at random things and talk about sports, and i wish him well in doing it, but that whole bit about country charm and down to earth local know-how is an act. really, he's just a spoiled rich kid who partied his way through his early adulthood and was gifted a hugely powerful and influential job that was way over his head.

and now we all have some major cleaning up to do.
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If you really think Bush was the mastermind behind anything, i dont know what to say, we arent cleaning his mess, he was just a figure head at best.
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If you really think Bush was the mastermind behind anything, i dont know what to say, we arent cleaning his mess, he was just a figure head at best.
Darth Cheney was the mastermind.

Did you see him in a wheelchair yesterday? looks like karma got the best of him
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Turd Blossom was the mastermind. Cheney was the Nixonian devil in his ear, which he chose to listen to up until about two years ago.
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Number of news stories from 1998 to Election Day 2000 containing “George W. Bush” and “aura of inevitability”: 206

Amount for which Bush successfully sued Enterprise Rent-A-Car in 1999: $2,500

Year in which a political candidate first sued Palm Beach County over problems with hanging chads: 1984

Total amount the Bush campaign paid Enron and Halliburton for use of corporate jets during the 2000 recount: $15,400

Percentage of Bush’s first 189 appointees who also served in his father’s administration: 42

Minimum number of Bush appointees who have regulated industries they used to represent as lobbyists: 98

Years before becoming energy secretary that Spencer Abraham cosponsored a bill to abolish the Department of Energy: 2

Number of Chevron oil tankers named after Condoleezza Rice, at the time she became foreign policy adviser: 1

Date on which the GAO sued Dick Cheney to force the release of documents related to current U.S. energy policy: 2/22/02

Number of other officials the GAO has sued over access to federal records: 0

Months before September 11, 2001, that Cheney’s Energy Task Force investigated Iraq’s oil resources: 6

Hours after the 9/11 attacks that an Alaska congressman speculated they may have been committed by “eco-terrorists”: 9

Date on which the first contract for a book about September 11 was signed: 9/13/01

Number of Middle Eastern, South Asian, and North African men detained in the U.S. in the eight weeks after 9/11: 1,182

Number of them ever charged with a terrorism-related crime: 0

Number charged with an immigration violation: 762

Days since the federal government first placed the nation under an “elevated terror alert” that the level has been relaxed: 0

Minimum number of calls the FBI received in fall 2001 from Utah residents claiming to have seen Osama bin Laden: 20

Number of box cutters taken from U.S. airline passengers since January 2002: 105,075

Percentage of Americans in 2006 who believed that U.S. Muslims should have to carry special I.D.: 39

Chances an American in 2002 believed the government should regulate comedy routines that make light of terrorism: 2 in 5

Rank of Mom, Dad, and Rudolph Giuliani among those whom 2002 college graduates said they most wished to emulate: 1, 2, 3

Number of members of the rock band Anthrax who said they hoarded Cipro so as to avoid an “ironic death”: 1

Estimated total calories members of Congress burned giving Bush’s 2002 State of the Union standing ovations: 22,000

Percentage of the amendments in the Bill of Rights that are violated by the USA PATRIOT Act, according to the ACLU: 50

Minimum number of laws that Bush signing statements have exempted his administration from following: 1,069

Estimated number of U.S. intelligence reports on Iraq that were based on information from a single defector: 100

Number of times the defector had ever been interviewed by U.S. intelligence agents: 0

Date on which Bush said of Osama bin Laden, “I truly am not that concerned about him”: 3/13/02

Days after the U.S. invaded Iraq that Sony trademarked “Shock & Awe” for video games: 1

Days later that the company gave up the trademark, citing “regrettable bad judgment”: 25

Number of books by Henry Kissinger found in Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz’s mansion: 2

Number by then–New York Times reporter Judith Miller: 1

Factor by which an Iraqi in 2006 was more likely to die than in the last year of the Saddam regime: 3.6

Factor by which the cause of death was more likely to be violence: 120

Chance that an Iraqi has fled his or her home since the beginning of the war: 1 in 6

Portion of Baghdad residents in 2007 who had a family member or friend wounded or killed since 2003: 3/4

Percentage of U.S. veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who have filed for disability with the VA: 35

Chance that an Iraq war veteran who has served two or more tours now has post-traumatic stress disorder: 1 in 4

Number of all U.S. war veterans who have been denied Veterans Administration health care since 2003: 452,677

Number of eligibility restrictions for admission into the Army that have been loosened since 2003: 9

Percentage change from 2004 to 2007 in the number of Army recruits admitted despite having been charged with a felony: +295

Date on which the White House announced it had stopped looking for WMDs in Iraq: 1/12/05

Years since his acquittal that O. J. Simpson has said he is still looking for his wife’s “real killers”: 13

Minimum number of close-up photographs of Bush’s hands owned by his current chief of staff, Josh Bolten: 4

Number of vehicles in the motorcade that transports Bush to his regular bike ride in Maryland: 6

Estimated total miles he has ridden his bike as president: 5,400

Portion of his presidency he has spent at or en route to vacation spots: 1/3

Minimum number of times that Frederick Douglass was beaten in what is now Donald Rumsfeld’s vacation home: 25

Estimated number of juveniles whom the United States has detained as enemy combatants since 2002: 2,500

Minimum number of detainees who were tortured to death in U.S. custody: 8

Minimum number of extraordinary renditions that the United States has made since 2006: 200

Date on which USA Today added Guantánamo to its weather map: 1/3/05

Number of incidents of torture on prime-time network TV shows from 2002 to 2007: 897

Number on shows during the previous seven years: 110

Percentage change since 2000 in U.S. emigration to Canada: +79

Number of the thirty-eight Iraq war veterans who have run for Congress who were Democrats: 21

Percentage of Republicans in 2005 who said they would vote for Bush over George Washington: 62

Seconds it took a Maryland consultant in 2004 to pick a Diebold voting machine’s lock and remove its memory card: 10

Number of states John Kerry would have won in 2004 if votes by poor Americans were the only ones counted: 40

Number if votes by rich Americans were the only ones counted: 4

Portion of all U.S. income gains during the Bush Administration that have gone to the top 1 percent of earners: 3/4

Increase since 2000 in the number of Americans living at less than half the federal poverty level: 3,500,000

Percentage change since 2001 in the average amount U.S. workers spend on out-of-pocket medical expenses: +172

Estimated percentage by which Social Security benefits would have declined if Bush’s privatization plan had passed: –15

Percentage change since 2002 in the number of U.S. teens using illegal drugs: –9

Percentage change in the number of adults in their fifties doing so: +121

Number of times FDA officials met with consumer and patient groups as they revised drug-review policy in 2006: 5

Number of times they met with industry representatives: 113

Amount the Justice Department spent in 2001 installing curtains to cover two seminude statues of Justice: $8,650

Number of Republican officials who have been investigated by the Justice Department since 2001: 196

Number of Democratic officials who have been: 890

Number of White House officials in 2006 and 2007 authorized to discuss pending criminal cases with the DOJ: 711

Number of Clinton officials ever authorized to do so: 4

Years since a White House official as senior as I. Lewis Libby had been indicted while in office: 130

Number of U.S. cities and towns that have passed resolutions calling for the impeachment of President Bush: 92

Percentage change since 2001 in U.S. government spending on paper shredding: +466

Percentage of EPA scientists who say they have experienced political interference with their work since 2002: 60

Change since 2001 in the percentage of Americans who believe humans are causing climate change: –4

Number of total additions made to the U.S. endangered-species list under Bush: 61

Average number made yearly under Clinton: 65

Minimum number of pheasant hunts Dick Cheney has gone on since he shot a hunting companion in 2006: 5

Days after Hurricane Katrina hit that Cheney’s office ordered an electric company to restore power to two oil pipelines: 1

Days after the hurricane that the White House authorized sending federal troops into New Orleans: 4

Portion of the $3.3 billion in federal Hurricane Katrina relief spent by Mississippi that has benefited poor residents: 1/4

Percentage change in the number of Louisiana and Mississippi newborns named Katrina in the year after the storm: +153

Rank of Nevaeh, “heaven” spelled backward, among the fastest growing names given to American newborns since 2000: 1

Months, beginning in 2001, that the federal government’s online condom fact sheet disappeared from its website : 17

Minimum amount that religious groups received in congressional earmarks from 2003 to 2006: $209,000,000

Amount such groups received during the previous fourteen years: $107,000,000

Percentage change from 2003 to 2007 in the amount of money invested in U.S. faith-based mutual funds: +88

Average annualized percentage return during that time in the Christian and Muslim funds, respectively: +11, +15

Number of feet the Ground Zero pit has been built up since the site was fully cleared in 2002: 30

Number of 980-foot-plus “Super Tall” towers built in the Arab world in the seven years since 9/11: 4

Year by which the third and final phase of the 2003 “road map” to a Palestinian state was to have been reached: 2005

Estimated number of the twenty-five provisions of the first phase that have yet to be completed: 12

Number of times in 2007 that U.S. media called General David Petraeus “King David”: 14

Percentage change during the first ten months of the Iraq war “surge” in the number of Iraqis detained in U.S.-run prisons: +63

Percentage change in the number of Iraqis aged nine to seventeen detained: +285

Ratio of the entire U.S. federal budget in 1957, adjusted for inflation, to the amount spent so far on the Iraq war: 1:1

Estimated amount Bush-era policies will cost the U.S. in new debt and accrued obligations: $10,350,000,000,000 (see page 31)

Percentage change in U.S. discretionary spending during Bush’s presidency: +31

Percentage change during Reagan’s and Clinton’s, respectively: +16, +0.3

Ratio in 1999 of the number of U.S. federal employees to the number of private employees on government contracts: 15:6

Ratio in 2006: 14:15

Total value of U.S. government contracts in 2000 that were awarded without competitive bidding: $73,000,000,000

Total in 2007: $146,000,000,000

Number of the five directors of the No Child Left Behind reading program with financial ties to a curriculum they developed: 4

Amount by which the federal government has underfunded its estimated cost to implement NCLB: $71,000,000,000

Minimum number of copies sold, since it was released in 2006, of Flipping Houses for Dummies: 45,000

Chance that the buyer of a U.S. home in 2006 now has “negative equity,” i.e., the debt on the home exceeds its value: 1 in 5

Estimated value of Henry Paulson’s Goldman Sachs stock when he became Treasury Secretary and sold it: $575,000,000

Estimated value of that stock today: $238,000,000

Salary in 2006 of the White House’s newly created Director for Lessons Learned: $106,641

Minimum number of Bush-related books published since 2001: 606

Number of words in the first sentence of Bill Clinton’s memoir and in that of George W. Bush’s, respectively: 49, 5

Minimum number of nicknames Bush has given to associates during his presidency: 75

Number of associates with the last name Jackson he has dubbed “Action Jackson”: 2

Number of press conferences at which Bush has referred to a question as a “trick”: 14

Number of times he has declared an event or outcome not to be “acceptable”: 149

Rank of Bush among U.S. presidents with the highest disapproval rating: 1

Average percentage of Americans who approved of the job Bush was doing during his second term: 37

Percentage of Russians today who approve of the direction their country took under Stalin: 37
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It's always amazed me that there are so many staunch Stalin supporters today - mainly on the outskirts of towns.

Look up 'evil' in the dictionary...
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He obviously isnt the sharpest knife in the shed, but he doesnt ever claim to be that smart. He loved to drink, do coke, party and skim by in life, and he became the President Of The United States somehow, i mean, obv his family connections helped him out, but i still find this astounding!! :P
What is so astounding about this? Just more evidence that the rich and powerful stay rich and powerful regardless of work ethic and intelligence. I'm not saying that you need to be a Rhodes Scholar to be succesful. What would be astounding is if he had actually worked his way through the ranks, paid his dues, contributed positively to ANYTHING along the way. Instead he fed off of his father's legacy and destroyed everything in his underserved path to the top.

For the record, I don't think he is a "bad person" either...but I find nothing about his story astounding...if anything, I find it depressing and unfortunate.
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Ugo.

Wow.

LX pretty much slammed this one shut, I mean ya, obviously we should ALL love the guy, he was after all, just good ole Southern Boy that never meant no harm.

Fuck me.

You do know the guy from the HArold and Kumar movie was an actor right????
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What did LX's post really prove about George himself?? Im willing to bet George is a pretty good guy if we actually got to know him, he had alot of expectations on him with his family legacy, he tried to make his Dad happy and i think he succeeded. I dont think he is a malicious or evil person whatsoever.

Comparing Bush to Stalin is ridiculous in any form btw.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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we all ahve our opinions i Guess
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Ugo and Benzo agree.

I have a feeling history look fondly back on GWB.
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Ugo and Benzo agree.

I have a feeling history look fondly back on GWB.
I just changed my mind F BUSH!!! :P but yea, the truth is, all the partisan BS in washington started getting heavy during CLINTONs (who everybody seems to love, esp liberals) last term in office, they alienated the republicans and got the favor returned.
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partisanship in washington started with the clintons? wow short memories.
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partisanship in washington started with the clintons? wow short memories.
No, it didnt start with him, but it got to the ridiculous level where both parties wouldnt work together whatsoever and basically hated eachother with them, there will always be partisan politics, but the level its been at for the last 12 years is simply unacceptable.

BTW, im a Liberal and im saying this.
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Ugo and Benzo agree.

I have a feeling history look fondly back on GWB.
Who's History?

I can probably dig up a few million from Louisiana that won't.

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Amen to the comment above.

Also, it's the weekend! What are you doing up at 6 a.m.?! Yeesh!
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