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Old 06-26-2010, 09:38 PM   #101 (permalink)
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it's the worlds spotlight on you. you might not have a care for it, but surely the world leaders are held in a higher regard than us message board folks. this year, having both the olympics and g20 without incident (so far) opens doors for foreign investment. having this, plus the one of the least dramatic effects from the economic crisis secures it.
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:42 PM   #102 (permalink)
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but surely the world leaders are held in a higher regard than us message board folks.
Nobody has yet to piss on somebody else on my behalf, so I suppose you're right.
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:46 PM   #103 (permalink)
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you never had enough fun in high school then
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:01 PM   #104 (permalink)
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When I wore all black in high school, I was sneaking out at night to smoke weed.

The way I see it, the meeting isn't the event, the protest/riots are the event.

They set up this annual (annual right?) meeting, and everybody and their mother knows about it, and knows that rioting and protesting is going to happen. That' what everybody sees on the tele every year.


Why not make it more casual, make it less public. Make it more sporadic.

The G20 is about international finance/banking and the world markets. They don't need to fight any "wars". They don't need to prove anything, or make any symbolic stand to a bunch of black-clad teenagers.

They sure as hell don't have to make a huge event to get together to have efficient discussions. These people are communicating with eachother all the time anyways.

As for opening the door to financial investments... I don't see how holding this meeting opens any doors to financial investments that weren't already opened. Just because we keep everybody alive, the EU is going to give us money?
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:05 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I guess what I'm saying is:

What exactly would be the consequences of not having a g20 summit?

What would be the consequences of just having a g20 organization that met sporadically throughout the year and communicated through more efficient means.

That would really kick the black hoody gang in the nuts, they wouldn't have anywhere or any reason to go burn police cars.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:14 AM   #106 (permalink)
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SJ!! Come on dude. You're a smart guy. What it represents?? Billions of dollars just to show that you can?!?!?
Why ya pissy with me, I ain't the one holding G20's.

It's just global politics man. Sure it's stupid, but it is what it is.

A low flying plane just went over Parkdale.

Fuck this is weird.
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:55 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Quick Important Update...

I can confirm the Brass Rail is intact and all is well
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:26 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Anyone here think that the government (USA) is evil, and that the G20 protesters are the good guys here? (what they protest for, not the breaking crap part)
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:33 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Well USA government tries to do good, but special interests has way too much power due to the nature of a democracy. I don't even know the platform of these protests beside women rights and aboriginal rights. Those are fine, but their voices are being silenced by a mob of ridiculous looking jackasses
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:53 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Are you serious?
Obama has already broken half the promises that he made before being elected.

9/11 being a hoax, it was used to make money and gain power by attacking Iraq and expanding their army for new world order. (just some things I've been convinced to believe, but the arguments were damn convincing.)
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Obama breaking half the promises is not bad. Look at Bush. No president ever fulfills their promises, its like you and me. I respect Obama because he actually tried to criticise the Israeli flotilla thing before his aides told him to shut up. AIPAC runs US politics, its quite sad to watch these puppets try to do work, but there are some good ones in politics. I dont think they needed to pull a 9/11 to justify going into Iraq. But the new world order thing is definitely apparent, although it would be hard to achieve since its hard for the most powerful people in the world to form an alliance. They all want their share of the pie
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:20 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Luckily Canada isn't like that. (right? )
Obama promised to pull out troops from Afghanistan, but instead sent like 30000 more. What the hell is that?
He also promised to stop government secrecy but that was also a lie.
All of the conspiracy videos for 9/11 point cold hard facts at 9/11 being a hoax. Why else would they do that?
Damn America!!!


and btw, what exactly is the G20 summit for? xD
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Old 06-27-2010, 04:06 AM   #113 (permalink)
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what are the benifits
hotels, confrence centers, resturaunts filled cause of all the delegates and media
recognition for the city
deals are worked out with businesses from visiting countries, i.e. a chinese bank makes a deal with RBC, trade agreements made
security firms/cops making some extra coin

optimisim

Harper>Obama
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:02 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Over 500 people arrested as of this morning. Madness.
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Obama breaking half the promises is not bad. Look at Bush. No president ever fulfills their promises, its like you and me. I respect Obama because he actually tried to criticise the Israeli flotilla thing before his aides told him to shut up. AIPAC runs US politics, its quite sad to watch these puppets try to do work, but there are some good ones in politics. I dont think they needed to pull a 9/11 to justify going into Iraq. But the new world order thing is definitely apparent, although it would be hard to achieve since its hard for the most powerful people in the world to form an alliance. They all want their share of the pie
Until they get into office and really get briefed on everything and see evrything up close (ie: classified documents, security briefings, the truth about the economy)......and then wonder WTF he's gotten himself into. Promises mean little until then, because alot of his promises are out of his hands when all is said and done.
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Not things like shutting down Gitmo jeff.

Not things like stopping spying and arresting people for no reason. The right of Habeas Corpus under Obama has actually gone backwards a bit since he's taken office.

Foreign policy I understand takes more debriefing, but the Democrats, are just fighting between themselves and can't get shit done.
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As for the articulation by some of these protestors, spray painting 'bomb da banks' speaks volumes to me.

I'm not the biggest fan of banks, however, I'll articulate to you in financial terms why I think they need to be regulated a bit more (Canada does a good job).
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Not things like shutting down Gitmo jeff.

Not things like stopping spying and arresting people for no reason. The right of Habeas Corpus under Obama has actually gone backwards a bit since he's taken office.

Foreign policy I understand takes more debriefing, but the Democrats, are just fighting between themselves and can't get shit done.
Oh i completely agree. They had the majority and dicked around arguing amongst themselves. Morons.
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As for the articulation by some of these protestors, spray painting 'bomb da banks' speaks volumes to me.

I'm not the biggest fan of banks, however, I'll articulate to you in financial terms why I think they need to be regulated a bit more (Canada does a good job).
This is from FOX NEWS of all places..



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G-20 Nations Should Look to Canada for How to Build a Better Economy
By Scott Lincicome & James M. Roberts

Published June 24, 2010
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Leaders from 19 countries and the European Union will gather for the G-20 summit in Toronto beginning June 26 to discuss how to stem the global recession and get the world back on the path to strong, stable economic growth. They picked a good spot, as the assembled leaders could learn a lot from their host country.

Since the global recession hit two years ago, Canada has implemented a broad array of free market tax and trade policies. As a result, our neighbor to the north has surpassed an increasingly statist, mercantilist United States in The Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom. More importantly, Canada is emerging from the “Great Recession” much more rapidly than the U.S. and virtually every other G-20 participant as well.

How has Canada done it? At the onset of the recession, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s government moved aggressively to improve Canadian manufacturers’ global competitiveness. After extensive consultations with Canadian industries, Ottawa unilaterally eliminated tariffs on 1,755 different types of machinery, equipment and other manufacturing materials.

The Department of Finance presented a straightforward rationale for the move: “By reducing the cost of importing key factors of production, tariff relief encourages innovation and allows businesses to enhance their stock of capital equipment.” The Department projected that Canada’s complete liberalization of more than C$5 billion in imports will provide an additional C$300 million in annual duty savings for Canadian businesses.

Canada didn’t stop with tariffs. It also slashed the corporate tax rate to 18 percent. And the rate will fall farther -- to 16.5 percent next year and to 15 percent a year later.

The Harper government reasoned that such tax cuts would help make Canada one of the world’s most attractive destinations for international business investment. And they certainly have a point: Canada’s 2010 marginal effective tax rate is more than 16 percentage points lower than the United States’ 34.2 percent rate and two points below the OECD average.
FOXNews.com - G-20 Nations Should Look to Canada for How to Build a Better Economy
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That's the theme right now......BBC UK had something titled, "Why we all want to be Canadian"
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