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Old 05-16-2012, 10:30 PM   #341 (permalink)
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well that's the difference right there, isn't it. political arguments need to be challenged, and they also need to be open to those challenges. that's the foundational democratic principle. peace.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:40 PM   #342 (permalink)
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i think if there's one thing we could all agree upon is that none of this would have happened if people stuck to the designated protest areas and protested without supporting or observing violent acts.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:49 PM   #343 (permalink)
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that's 3 things, not one. and i don't agree on the first part or the last.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:55 PM   #344 (permalink)
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there's only two things, 1 and 2
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:03 PM   #345 (permalink)
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designated protest areas, supporting violence, observing violence. 3.
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I think if there's one thing we can agree on, it's that under no circumstances should our police force be committing crimes at an organizational level. If that's going to be acceptable then I will be fully supporting the window smashers. But seriously - pinning it down to those two choices alone, rather than allowing for an active citizenry and policing that protects that as well as storefronts (instead of protecting neither), is just a hopeless situation that begs for continued abuses.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:40 PM   #347 (permalink)
and a 1, and a 2, and a 1,2,3,4!

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Yes, the police fucked up with the g20 management. But the question still lies. Why on earth have the g20 in such a crowded location anyways? In Canada's largest city, N/A fifth largest or something like that? There would have been no protest if the people didn't believe their rights were being violated, like not being able to live in a certain area at the time of the meeting. Property is property, so instead of kicking people out of their homes for security, leading to much civil unrest, have it in a remote location, like you did with the g8, and You wouldn't have to have violent protests occur or the police screw up.

oh, and you'd save, what was it, 5 billion dollars? possibly spend it on things like healthcare, transit, education, pensions, etc? But wait, this is Harper. That means these things are worth about as much as sand in a desert.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:25 AM   #349 (permalink)
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:29 AM   #350 (permalink)
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there's no way! that's worse than making up police brutality!
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but not worse than actual police brutality.
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yes, but in this case, there's a thing 3 and no police brutality.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:48 AM   #353 (permalink)
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“Numerous police officers used excessive force when arresting individuals, and seemed to send a message that violence would be met with violence,” the report states.
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“It is fair to say the level of force used in controlling the crowds and making arrests at Queen’s Park was higher than anything the general public had witnessed before in Toronto.”

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There was no police brutality. The brutality came from hired thugs that wore no police identification.
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