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Old 09-03-2010, 02:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have dealt with the CRTC myself, and found them to be understaffed and generally ineffective. But I do still believe strongly in the principle of maintaining public control over public airwaves, and having the PMO tamper with the process in any way represents a very dangerous step towards weakening democratic standards that are already very low. Instead of tackling the real problems that exist at the CRTC, this simply worsens them to gain a political advantage.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm glad that a lot of Canadians have responded to this issue. No matter where you live, progressive thinking is being hijacked by extreme agendas on both sides of the political fence. This tactics exist in Canada, the US, North Korea, and everywhere else. It's just that news companies like Fox make a lot of money doing this. The effect of this partisan dump on society remains to be seen.

Politics, whether it's individual, local or global, all have to be analyzed from multiple perspectives. I'll be curious to see the types of shows that will be on SunTV News. But if I already have Fox news, isn't it better to head directly to the source?

And on Harper, not the best time to push this thing through is it?
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I have dealt with the CRTC myself, and found them to be understaffed and generally ineffective. But I do still believe strongly in the principle of maintaining public control over public airwaves, and having the PMO tamper with the process in any way represents a very dangerous step towards weakening democratic standards that are already very low. Instead of tackling the real problems that exist at the CRTC, this simply worsens them to gain a political advantage.
I agree that it makes no sense to use the CRTC as a puppet for Harper's personal agenda, but could you outline some more of what gives rise to the belief I've bolded above?
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree that it makes no sense to use the CRTC as a puppet for Harper's personal agenda, but could you outline some more of what gives rise to the belief I've bolded above?
First of all, it's the law, and with good reason. With the rise of the internet and cable, it's a law that needs to be looked at more closely and reformed, but to just hand over control to corporate interests due to technological changes is something I find very dismaying. Control over the means of accessible information is not something that should just be handed over to the Rupert Murdoch's of this world.

In the meantime, cable television and internet providers are not unlike the robber barons of a century-and-a-half ago. The public's interest has been eroded in this area from all sides for the profits of a few. This is supposed to be the information age, and yet the pool of information the average citizen has to rely on has been muddied to such a great extent that I feel on safer ground with a person that is confused than I do with one that expresses certainty, and that is precisely the way those that hold real power are able to shape policy in order to suit their own interests rather than those concerned with maintaining the public good.
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First of all, it's the law, and with good reason. With the rise of the internet and cable, it's a law that needs to be looked at more closely and reformed, but to just hand over control to corporate interests due to technological changes is something I find very dismaying. Control over the means of accessible information is not something that should just be handed over to the Rupert Murdoch's of this world.
The law is always meant to be changed thats democracy. Also, I'd rather the law state that a ton of small companies control the media as oppose to the government and the ultra rich. Why do we have to settle for the propaganda machine of the government and the ultra rich when the media airwaves should be controled by everyone?


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In the meantime, cable television and internet providers are not unlike the robber barons of a century-and-a-half ago. The public's interest has been eroded in this area from all sides for the profits of a few. This is supposed to be the information age, and yet the pool of information the average citizen has to rely on has been muddied to such a great extent that I feel on safer ground with a person that is confused than I do with one that expresses certainty, and that is precisely the way those that hold real power are able to shape policy in order to suit their own interests rather than those concerned with maintaining the public good.

Exactly my point which is why I think the media should be controlled by the many (ie small businesses and regular people) rather than the few (government and the ultra rich)
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it's not like we're talking about a grass-roots community news station dvs. these dudes are pretty much the "ultra rich".
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:07 AM   #27 (permalink)
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it's not like we're talking about a grass-roots community news station dvs. these dudes are pretty much the "ultra rich".
isn't it pretty much hypocritical that the government controls it then. Wasting public money for their own personal agenda
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:22 AM   #28 (permalink)
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in a sense i agree with you, but i don't necessarily equate small business with regular people nor the government with the ultra rich. there is a lot of grey area here. there is definitely a piece of this puzzle where small businesses support the same objectives as the ultra rich, and equally a piece where regular people have their voice heard precisely because of the government.

and i definitely think i'd rather have the airwaves controlled by a regulatory body at arms length from the gov't than directly by the prime ministers office.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:30 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I worry about Sportsnet One more than this Fox North. Just saying.
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I worry about Sportsnet One more than this Fox North. Just saying.
I'm sure Harper would get re elected if he mandated Snet One on regular cable
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Its just to balance the scales against he left wing propaganda media that we pay for....the CBC
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