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Old 05-02-2011, 08:07 PM   #161 (permalink)
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I havent read this whole thread, but I hope someone posted the names of all the innocent people killed in Iraq and afghanistan. But sadly, I dont think the site has enough space for it.

Theres some justice for ya.
the deaths that NATO is responsible for, or the taliban?
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:37 PM   #162 (permalink)
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the deaths that NATO is responsible for, or the taliban?
the NATO..

but yeah. all those
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:48 PM   #163 (permalink)
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I am too tired/dense sometimes to put into words how I feel about whatever. This kinda does it for me...

Opinion: Bin Laden assassinated not martyred - CNN.com

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Over the past decade, international law has evolved in such a way as to justify such direct interventions, if only we could act more quickly on the thicket of protocols and deliberations we have invented. The International Criminal Court which oversaw the trial of Serbian war criminal Slobodan Milosevic, has indicted sitting heads of state such as Omar Bashir of Sudan. The Responsibility to Protect (R2P) doctrine, ratified in 2005 by the United Nations General Assembly in 2005, sets forth a process for determining whether the international community can be obligated to intervene to prevent crimes against humanity.

The core principle behind these institutions and treaties is that sovereignty is a responsibility, not a privilege. This applies not only to dictators and terrorist fugitives, but to the governments that give them safe harbor.

It is no secret that Osama bin Laden was hiding in plain sight in various locales in Pakistan for the past decade. While some have argued that this operation should be spun as having been conducted by Pakistani forces or disgruntled al Qaeda members would have let the Pakistani army off the hook from answering the difficult questions it must now face. Instead, this operation has sent a clear reminder to the many porous and poorly governed states that serve as safe havens for terrorist and criminal fugitives that others will extend the law into their territories if they fail to do so themselves.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:52 PM   #164 (permalink)
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that's well put, and i may actually agree with it. it still sets a horrible precedent, though, as it depends entirely on us power, which won't last forever.

i still wonder what would happen if a fugitive was hiding somewhere like china that the us can't just bully.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:08 PM   #165 (permalink)
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http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_ter...sama-bin-laden

Where in this clearly updated (he's listed as deceased) FBI wanted poster does it say anything about September 11? I'm sure it should have made it into his list of crimes, what a strange oversight.

The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, why bury him at sea? It directly and disrespectfully contradicts Muslim practices. They are really playing with fire here going forward. The fact is, they have martyred him and are making it worse with every action.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:56 PM   #166 (permalink)
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"USA! USA!" is the wrong response - War Room - Salon.com

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Old 05-03-2011, 01:34 AM   #167 (permalink)
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FBI — USAMA BIN LADEN

Where in this clearly updated (he's listed as deceased) FBI wanted poster does it say anything about September 11? I'm sure it should have made it into his list of crimes, what a strange oversight.

The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, why bury him at sea? It directly and disrespectfully contradicts Muslim practices. They are really playing with fire here going forward. The fact is, they have martyred him and are making it worse with every action.
9/11 Truther?
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:24 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Whether words from Obama or Osama, all you're ultimately gonna get is a bunch of BS!

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Old 05-03-2011, 06:46 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Mixed feelings.
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WHITE HOUSE TO RELEASE BIN LADEN DEATH PHOTO
Tue May 03 2011 10:22:50 ET

President Obama decided Tuesday morning to release at least one photo showing Osama Bin Laden's death, a top source claims.

The images, being described as 'graphic', are bound to stir emotions in the east and the west, and will likely become the most viewed photographs in modern history.

One image shows a bullet wound to his head above his left eye.

Will it remove all doubt about the death?

The exact timing on the release is being debated.

Developing...
DRUDGE: WHITE HOUSE RELEASES BIN LADEN DEATH PHOTO<BR><BR>
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:12 PM   #171 (permalink)
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I love how it's necessary to release the photo. I mean does anyone really think they are going to make claims that they've killed a guy that would have no problem releasing a video to prove them wrong?
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:40 PM   #172 (permalink)
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This isn't for you smart people.
This is for those blinded with Nationalism, or those who are not fortunate enough to have been properly educated.

Thats why you do not understand all this press, and the US governments actions.

IMO anyhow.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:53 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:04 PM   #174 (permalink)
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Reggie is an idiot then. Good to know.

I agree that it's not about any kind of intelligent processes, but there is stupid and there is stupid. I'm starting to feel stupid for expecting the downward spiral to end at some point.
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Talked to my mom had a long conversation about Osama. Sure all you know he worked for the American Intelligence but abandoned them. So many innocent muslims were getting killed and to whos fault that is that is a debate but Osama supposedly helped millions of people financially and personally. If only USA wasn't in so much debt none of this violence would have happend. RIP
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Interesting article.

Says that Osama was unarmed during the firefight. Also is debating the issue of whether or not to reveal the "gruesome" pictures to counter claims that Bin Laden is still alive.

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Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was confronted by U.S. commandos at his Pakistani hideout but tried to resist the assault, the White House said Tuesday as new details emerged about the audacious raid that killed the world’s most wanted terrorist.
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As for publicly releasing photos and video, Brennan said in a series of appearances on morning television that “this needs to be done thoughtfully,” with careful consideration given to what kind of reaction the images might provoke.
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U.S. officials say the photographic evidence shows bin Laden was shot above his left eye, blowing away part of his skull.
Bin Laden unarmed during U.S. attack: White House - thestar.com

I prefer if they do not post these images. Would only do more harm.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:23 PM   #177 (permalink)
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Begining to end this is just.........................wow!


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Old 05-03-2011, 11:28 PM   #178 (permalink)
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Talked to my mom had a long conversation about Osama. Sure all you know he worked for the American Intelligence but abandoned them. So many innocent muslims were getting killed and to whos fault that is that is a debate but Osama supposedly helped millions of people financially and personally. If only USA wasn't in so much debt none of this violence would have happend. RIP
He also supposedly planned the 9/11 attacks. I say good riddance, the world is always a better place with one less terrorist in the world, no?
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It is a shame he wasn't captured now that it appears that could have been done easily. It was important to make sure he didn't get away, and it was right to basically invade Pakistan, but a trial is a real missed opportunity. From the very first instincts of US leadership following 9/11, to now, they just seem to be heading down the same paths they have fought to keep others from taking. This is looking like an execution.
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It is a shame he wasn't captured now that it appears that could have been done easily. It was important to make sure he didn't get away, and it was right to basically invade Pakistan, but a trial is a real missed opportunity. From the very first instincts of US leadership following 9/11, to now, they just seem to be heading down the same paths they have fought to keep others from taking. This is looking like an execution.
Easily? You know that how?
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