Originally Posted by Claudius
Up for debate as well. Go nuts. Provide a list with your parameters.
Well, see, that's just it: I might have a different idea of what qualifies as a franchise player. I mean, if you're talking about guys you can build around and have a chance to make the finals, then I think D12 probably qualifies because he has been to the finals before. And he was the key to making the system work. Hedo and Lewis were at the end of their prime, yet looked much better alongside Howard. Also, without Howard, that team couldn't have got away with some weak defenders and using undersized PFs.
I'm sort of on the fence about Howard. I mean, he got to the finals. He was the definitely (and easily) the best player on that team. What more does he have to do?
Also, I think if you put Howard on a team that lacks any clear cut all-stars (capable of making the team right now) but has a good supporting cast, he could make the team a title contender.
For example, right now, I don't tink there is a chance in hell that Denver, Indiana or Philly win the title. But, if you replaced Hibbert with Howard, Indiana would have a respectable chance, in my opinion. Replace Nene with Howard...I think Denver has a chance. Replace...say, Elton Brand and Hawes, with Howard and I think Philly now has a chance.
Howard + good supporting cast, even one lacking a clear cut all-star, is probably a contender