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Old 08-10-2011, 03:45 PM   #87 (permalink)

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Originally Posted by Benzo View Post
It's a not debatable argument, if you can toss out "I guess you didn't need a bigger house"
the house comment was tongue in cheek and not really related to the rest at all. that should be obvious.

You didn't adress any of my concerns , just went off on your own rant "this is what usually happens".
i tried to respond to your comment, but as i said, i didn't understand what you are asking. i have never shied away from responding to you benzo. this is most certainbly not what usually happens. re-phrase and i will be happy to get to it.

How can you defend a system, that has me making more money, and taking home less than I did before.
i didn't defend the tax code, i defended higher taxes. that doesn't mean it is perfect in the precise way that it is arranged.

Tax me less, take the money you do get from me and spend it wisely, don't make fucking bike lanes and then take them away, dont support the interest of small loud groups, just for votes. I am a supporter of less government, because all they do is waste my money.
-the bike lanes had nothing to do with income tax, and if i remember correctly, you indicated your intention to vote for the guy that promised to get rid of the lanes.
-the rich are probably the loudest small group in canada. should we ignore them?
-the last sentence is such a gross exaggeration and oversimplification that i don't even know how to get into it. there are situations in which waste occurs, certainly, but that's just a ridiculous point to make. 'all they do is waste money' - like by building roads and hospitals and schools and such? we need these things. we can argue with government that they need to be better about being efficient, but business hasn't exactly made these things work well for your average or your poor canadian either.

Protect the weak, make the vulnerable secure, improve infrastructure; do not use me as a piggy bank. You are happy to pay taxes, I am happy to pay some, all I know is the harder I work 17hours a day these days, the more travelling I do, all to provide a better standard of living to my family is becoming impossible, becaue when it finally pays off , they take me right back to were I started.
again, i never defended the intricacies of our tax code. there are problems with it. you are in a tough spot - the same one that my family was in when i was growing up, and pretty much the same one i am in right now - the bottom end of the highest bracket. that is problematic. but that doesn't mean that high taxes are bad. those are two separate issues that each compose part of a massive question about taxation.

Why should I even bother? I would be better off taking 50k a year, leaving my wife at home and enjoying government subsidy right now instead of working my ass off to better my situation.

It's broken.
if you think that would be better for you, go right ahead.
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