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Old 08-10-2011, 02:11 PM   #63 (permalink)

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Originally Posted by 'trane View Post
not for everyone it doesn't. the founding principle that all men are created equally is patently false in many scenarios. that they should be considered equal in terms of value is a lofty aspiration worthy of being held up, but they certainly don't all start on equal footing.

and fwiw, i thumbsed-up bill h 2 times in this thread.
I didnt intend to imply that they started on an equal foot, quite the opposite.

Someone born poor has a chance in America...that is untrue in probably 80% of the rest of the world.
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