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Old 04-25-2011, 02:34 PM   #20 (permalink)

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Originally Posted by powerfulpanda View Post
i understand ur point but those guys never had an issue with effort whereas playing with no heart is the common denominator with barg and vince
if you think vince played with no heart in his first 4-5 years in the league, we weren't watching the same guy.
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