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Old 04-15-2011, 05:23 PM   #105 (permalink)
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RECORD REVENUE..not your words...fact



Name a couple.



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I still disagree, I believe a free market can will support social programs if they are transitioned to properly run businesses outside of government intervention. We already have them today, if they are rolled into the system of a free market they would be self sustainable. A private run credit program for charitable donations is a perfect example, there are many of these in existence today. They can be profitable.
the record revenue comes from theefforts of people to offset the missing government funding. but you may be confusing the issue - the funding did not previously flow to the united way from the government, it flowed to the agencies that the united way is now supporting. removing that revenue meant that united way had to step up and so went on a massive campaign for donations. select few taxpayersare now paying their taxes and making united way contributions to offset what the government nbeeds to do in the first place - take care of our most vulnerable community members.

successful socialist nations (all of these at least mention socialism in their constitution and have strong social program funding from their national government level and a strong role of government in theri economy - sweden, india, spain, portugal, venezuela, china, norway. is that enough?

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I believe a free market can will support social programs if they are transitioned to properly run businesses outside of government intervention. We already have them today, if they are rolled into the system of a free market they would be self sustainable. A private run credit program for charitable donations is a perfect example, there are many of these in existence today. They can be profitable.
ok, i'll give you an example -

take funding for disability programs. i'd love to see how this could be effective if privately run. currently there are many privately run group homes and transportation companies. they are astronomically expensive compared to the ones that receive direct government support. how do people pay for them (a year of care for some people can run up to $200,000)? answer - they are either independently wealthy or they are funded by the government to purchase those services. even the privately run, for-profit, group homes are indirectly funded by the government because no middle class family, let alone a family at or below the poverty line, can possibly afford the care necessary for survival. how could these group homes, the agencies that administer the funding, or anyone involved in this sector possibly make a profit on these services while keeping them affordable for the average family? none of this is covered by nationalized health care.

on top of the funded people, there are thousands in our city alone that are simply on wait lists, living below the poverty line with no access to any services that they can afford or that they can get a subsidy for. how can the free market possibly accomodate this?

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