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Old 04-15-2011, 03:47 PM   #100 (permalink)

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i didn't say people wouldn't step up, i implied that only a select few will, and it shoud be the government's responsibility to care for the weak and underpriviledged. now you're straight-up putting words into my mouth.
RECORD REVENUE..not your words...fact

the old-school monarchies and socialist governmenst argument is incredibly weak. you can do a lot better than that. you propose a confusion between authoritariansim and socialism. as acgm has pointed out, there are many happy and successful socialist nations that are not authoritarian.
Name a couple.

you missed my point about the logical hurdle you made regarding my last point. you don't need to accept the thesis prima facie, you need to assess it based on the rationale that follows, although i will acknowledge that the word 'and' is causing confusion at the start of the 3rd senbtence. you can delete that.

compassionate conservatism implies that you are willing to accept some curbs on free markets, by definition. once you do that, you can't just argue from the position of free markets anymore. you need to make the position based on a needs analysis and balance. that is the rationale behind the thesis that the position is untenable, not a point that merely follows it.

I still disagree, I believe a free market can will support social programs if they are transitioned to properly run businesses outside of government intervention. We already have them today, if they are rolled into the system of a free market they would be self sustainable. A private run credit program for charitable donations is a perfect example, there are many of these in existence today. They can be profitable.
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